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Murillo could be next:

 

https://www.onceamet...x-europe-panama


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Murillo could be next:

 

https://www.onceamet...x-europe-panama

I like Duncan, but he's no guaranteed to come back 100%, and that leaves us no depth.   If only we had any reason to believe they'd use xfer fees to do anything more than give raises to the current squad.


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We're a water stop on the  highway to the big leagues. Others will want to travel the same road. Not conducive to team continuity, but it is what it is. No sense having an academy if we do not offer openings on an on-going basis. Do I like this set up? Not really. But what's the choice? NYRB has to make money somehow.



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What would you guys accept as a fair price? I'm probably a bigger fan of Murillo than most, but I think $2M-$3M is reasonable given his age and attacking ability.

 

I like Duncan, but he's no guaranteed to come back 100%, and that leaves us no depth.   If only we had any reason to believe they'd use xfer fees to do anything more than give raises to the current squad.

 

I remember one off-season a few years ago Roxburgh basically said we had no money for new signings cause some role players had incentive-based bonuses triggered in their contracts. Stuff like that is frustrating to see.

 

But a league-best back line of guys who are in their early/mid 20's making less than $150k per year? Tough to argue against making it a priority to give those guys their deserved compensation.



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Kinda hesitant on letting him go until we know for sure what the club is going to do with the cash they take in from tranfers. Like the money from the Adams deal, even though it technically is in-house.

Murillo was absolutely terrible in the Atlanta series and misses games because of his commitment with Panama's garbage national team.

But if the club is going to flog him away and fill his starting spot with an academy player or journeyman MLS vet (aka moneyball approach) then I'd prefer keeping him around with the hope that he bounces back next season.

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Kinda hesitant on letting him go until we know for sure what the club is going to do with the cash they take in from tranfers. Like the money from the Adams deal, even though it technically is in-house.

Murillo was absolutely terrible in the Atlanta series and misses games because of his commitment with Panama's garbage national team.

But if the club is going to flog him away and fill his starting spot with an academy player or journeyman MLS vet (aka moneyball approach) then I'd prefer keeping him around with the hope that he bounces back next season.

I'm kinda hesitant to post again because my last comment was immediately used to create a new topic, but...

 

Murillo is maddeningly inconsistent. I see the skills but not the dedication and intensity to make it in the top leagues. It's attitude that holds him back, so maybe a new environment will figure out how to get the most out of him.

 

I don't want to lose him, but if the price is right maybe we have already seen the best we are ever going to get from him. Compare the progress we witnessed in just one year from Adams or Long versus the progress from Murillo. 

 

If I worked with him every day I would have an answer to that question. For we fans all we can do is scratch our heads. Maybe they think Duncan or others can make the leap.



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The best we've seen so far is All-MLS level, from an inconsistent 22yo on an upward curve and a laughably low salary. It's more likely that he gets better at this stage, not worse.

If we lose him, so be it, and it would be an understandable if he goes to a bigger/more generous club but it's hardly a good thing for our starting lineup.

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I don't want to lose him, but if the price is right maybe we have already seen the best we are ever going to get from him. Compare the progress we witnessed in just one year from Adams or Long versus the progress from Murillo. 

 

Knowing that NY is not home or the career goal for Murillo, accepting a decent offer is probably the smart move. But I think it's a little unfair to suggest he may have peaked. He started 2017 as a 21 year old loanee on RB2, and ended 2018 as one of the best in his position league-wide. He might not match Adams's meteoric rise but he's not all that far behind.



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Sell asap if he wants to go and the price is right. I always thought he was kind of weak on the the defensive end but had huge upsides in possession and going forward. He's a winger's dream wing partner going forward. And he's only 22? I thought he was at least the wrong side of 25. 

 

It'll be a huge loss but right back isn't the scariest place to lose a player in, could be replaceable by a more seasoned MLS guy. 



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The best we've seen so far is All-MLS level, from an inconsistent 22yo on an upward curve and a laughably low salary. It's more likely that he gets better at this stage, not worse.

If we lose him, so be it, and it would be an understandable if he goes to a bigger/more generous club but it's hardly a good thing for our starting lineup.

I guess people read what they want to read. I said he has the skills. He's inconsistent in his head, that's the issue. My seats are close to the pitch at the midstripe. I get to see he and Kemar work their stuff more than any other players due to their proximity. There are times he just can't be bothered positioning himself well defensively. He fails to close down space and then boom, we are in trouble. When he is in the mood to defend he does fine. He has the ability and at his age I would want to give him more time to get there, but if he can't generate a more consistent total football fire, then he has a ceiling lower than it needs to be.

 

This is MLS, I don't expect very player to be the second coming nor do the coaches. What frustrates me with Murillo is he has the skills. Some guys try hard but they can't take guys on 1v1 like Murillo can. If we could fuse his skills with Muyl's drive we'd have an incredible player and then of course he would be gone for sure. LOL



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If we sell Tyler and Murillo, we will be swimming in GAM, plus a few million we can spend on "team-related expenses" (including transfer fees?) What's the best way we can invest it in the team?
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Hes had one foot out the door since he was supposed earlier in the year. There was that couple of games after the World Cup when he wasnt playing and seemed to be gone

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Sucks but not totally out of the blue. Best case scenario they loan him back to us until August

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my last comment was ... used to create a new topic


I wonder, who is the king of thread splits?
MF has devolved enough of my posts over the years.

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I wonder, who is the king of thread splits?
MF has devolved enough of my posts over the years.

I don't post enough to be the king, so I am happy to anoint you that honor. : )






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