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In Topic: The Fire Chris Armas Thread

10 October 2019 - 09:33 PM

Losing Adams hurt us badly because talent wins.

BUT over the past few years the team was built in a VERY specific way for a very specific tactical purpose....and Armas decided to screw with it. This is what happens.

Never said otherwise lol

In Topic: The Fire Chris Armas Thread

10 October 2019 - 06:38 PM

Adams was one of the best players in the whole league. Saying that Rzat and CCJ should be good enough to replace him because they are MLS caliber players is like saying Real Madrid shouldn't have gotten that much worse when Ronaldo left because Karim Benzema and Gareth Bale are La Liga quality forwards.  Adams quality made every part of the game easier for every player on the field.  It made defending easier and attacking easier.  In some ways a real top quality central midfielder like Adams is far more important and the loss of such a player far more disruptive than a great goalscorer because it directly impacts how the team plays in ever part of the field. 

I wouldn't compare our situation with Adams leaving the Red Bulls and Ronaldo leaving Real Madrid. Real Madrid plays in one of the best leagues in the world and Ronaldo is top 2 in the entire world... of course replacing him is way more tougher and for Madrid they would be affected. Then again, they should have still done better and no one debated that.


For us, we lost Adams to the Bundesliga, which is a bigger step up from MLS obviously. The level in MLS, the talent you need to succeed here, isn't a lot. Rza and Casseres are not Adams and I won't ever say they are the same quality as Adams, he was one-of-a-kind, but with those two, our midfield shouldn't have been as bad as it was and overall, our team should not have regressed as much as it did.

In Topic: The Fire Chris Armas Thread

07 October 2019 - 02:44 PM

Really... all those words when it all comes down to is no Adams and no BWP  - HUGE losses - and no replacements.    That said, we shit the bed against teams we shold have beaten, way too often.


You make it sound like Tyler Adams was that hard to replace. The guy is Bundesliga level but Casseres and Rza should ideally be good enough in MLS to replace him. Neither are as good, but I don't think the level of our midfield should have gone down that much. With BWP, I agree, massive loss. Guy scored 20 goals last season, White scored 9 goals and Barlow got 3... neither are replacements for that level of production and that is why the blame isn't 100% on Armas but that doesn't mean he is exonerated.


Both Red Bull Global and Armas are to blame for what has been a pretty bad season.

In Topic: The Fire Chris Armas Thread

07 October 2019 - 01:57 PM

I don't get the sentiment about Armas and seeing what he could do with reinforcements. How is the 2019 team so different than 2018?


GK: Robles, was also our starter in 2018


D: Murillo (starter in 2018), Duncan (was here in 2018 and was good under Marsch before injury), Parker (starter 2018), Long (starter 2018), Lawrence (starter 2018), Lade (backup 2018), Tarek (new signing)


D/CM: Casseres (new signing but with us in 2018), Davis (starter 2018), Rza (starter 2018)


M: Muyl (starter 2018), Etienne (backup 2018), Kaku (starter 2018), Royer (starter 2018), Sims (new loanee)


F: BWP (starter 2018 but injury hit 2019), White (used a little post-Marsch in 2018), Barlow (new signing).


I mean, besides a few signings, this is almost the same exact team as 2018, minus Adams and BWP and add in Casseres and White/Barlow and Sims. This team went from Supporters Shield, most points in MLS history, and playing beautiful soccer to this season, getting 6th in the Eastern Conference, 6 points from not even making it, 23 points less than 2018, and bad performances against Orlando City twice, Chicago Fire, New England pre-Arena, FC Cincinnati, Vancouver at home, losing 4-0 away to Houston, and then defeats to Colorado and Montreal.


The team could have done better with the offseason last year but it wasn't like we were bad in 2018, we were good but needed more to well the playoffs. We still should have been better in the regular season and Armas has had a season and a half to figure that out.

In Topic: If Red Bull had to do it over

04 October 2019 - 06:00 PM

I don't think it is odd at all that they've invested heavily in the academy and not into the first team.


We are a feeder club - their mentality is that we can groom home-grown players, compete in MLS with a low payroll and produce some studs to move to their other teams or sell-on.


Now, that worked for a few years. We won some SS and made an Open Cup run. But at the end of the day, when push came to shove and teams played us differently -we were shut down in the playoffs over and over again. What would have additional investment have done last year? 


It feels like our time has passed. Adams was our best player and he's gone - he was a generational talent -  how many times is a player like that really going to come around? And even when he does, he'll be gone in a year or two. Now, you have clubs like LAFC and ATL and to a certain extent LAG and TFC that are investing heavily into their first teams...we just can't keep up. Blame Armas - and he deserves quite a bit of it, but blame our FO - everyone moved forward, we went backwards.  

Most people on reddit and the like would just say that losing our best young players to Europe is normal anyway in MLS and that for us, having our players have a pathway to Leipzig should be enticing.


Personally, I agree BUT I do think then if that is the case, then treat us like you do the other RB teams. The other RB teams spend more than us but not a lot relative to other big teams near them... they scout very well across Europe and get some great young players. I wouldn't mind if New York was that stop for some of the best upcoming youth.