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[RedBullScouse]

It's like they are not so much incompetent as they have no IDENTITY! IN THEIR CHEST! I feel like I understand the plan, but then they do something weird moves like not selling Long or Clark and I am confused again.

 

A bit of transparency as to what they are thinking would go a very long way to maintain interest among the hardcore fans I think. "Usually we would sell a player like Long, but we really wanted him for a run this year....." or " Usually we would sell, but Coach said he needed Long this year, so we give Stuber leeway to make that call."

 

Maybe I just don't get the plan and they just swung and missed. But absent any sort of explanation from Schieder and co, I am just assuming they are directionless. 

Maybe our identity is exactly what they say it is; the system is the star, build with young homegrown talent, move away from players when they hit 30.   We have no track record of selling young players unless  the player aggressively pushes to be sold (Miazga, Murillo, Taxi).    Not selling Long or Clark or Davis weirdly fit exactly into that identity.   Its almost as if the perception that we are simply a farm team isn't real.    

[Metrohoboken]

Of all the idiotic mistakes Red Bull has made over the years, holding on to its best defender despite market interest was not one of them. You have one of the best defenders on the league, domestic, young, good leader, relatively cheap. You get rid of him... why? To get some Garber bucks for a replacement that is bound to be worse? How many people would bitch about Red Bull selling if they did so?

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Not just market value but replacement value
Long was on a relatively inexpensive contract in 2018 I think Parker was making more until they resigned long

[MiLo4891]

Look if they are going to play at this moneyball, small market roster mentality they need the FO to have guys that specialize in this... Poach scouts from other clubs that have found diamonds in the rough....

Have a departament within the FO that specializes in knowing the intricacies of the convoluted player transaction rules and that also make well estimated assessments on who are the next players the franchise will lose to free agency or that will be sold...

I saw that Brentford did that... Heard about it on the broadcast from a guy that used to cover them.

They size up the roster predict who will leave and identify targets to replace the players they lose... That's why they can lose players and not break the bank and still make it and thrive in the premier league

[elf]

Look if they are going to play at this moneyball, small market roster mentality they need the FO to have guys that specialize in this... Poach scouts from other clubs that have found diamonds in the rough....

Have a departament within the FO that specializes in knowing the intricacies of the convoluted player transaction rules and that also make well estimated assessments on who are the next players the franchise will lose to free agency or that will be sold...

I saw that Brentford did that... Heard about it on the broadcast from a guy that used to cover them.

They size up the roster predict who will leave and identify targets to replace the players they lose... That's why they can lose players and not break the bank and still make it and thrive in the premier league

Well, all good teams do this. Even big teams like Real Madrid or Barcelona. They just take bigger and bigger risks with their investments.

Every guy we ever had and currently have on this roster is replaceable. We never had an elite talent like messi or ronaldo play in their prime for this club. And only a handful of clubs in the world will ever get that level of talent.

Everyone on this roster is replaceable. Like right now we need to sell casseres. Will we do that? Prob not.

[67% Class]

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Odds on RB Global including their local RBNY soccer team in with their new RBR livery release in NY?  

[67% Class]

Maybe our identity is exactly what they say it is; the system is the star, build with young homegrown talent, move away from players when they hit 30.   We have no track record of selling young players unless  the player aggressively pushes to be sold (Miazga, Murillo, Taxi).    Not selling Long or Clark or Davis weirdly fit exactly into that identity.   Its almost as if the perception that we are simply a farm team isn't real.    

Having self imposed budgetary constraints, while not doing the one thing that could increase your budget (player sales) is not an identity. Its self flagellation. Whats the purpose? 

[RedBullScouse]

Having self imposed budgetary constraints, while not doing the one thing that could increase your budget (player sales) is not an identity. Its self flagellation. Whats the purpose? 

Where in "the system is the star, build with young homegrown talent, move away from players when they hit 30" does it say anything about that?

 

Every team has budget constraints.    Selling players only helps if you buy players that are worth less than the ones you sell.

[ig101]

RBNY posted nice video on youtube yesterday.  Pretty good!

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=7i_ZC0BgIsE

[The Falcon]

Forbes values the club at $525M. Don't recall what the last valuation in 2019 was but most clubs are seeing significant increase in value, as much as 96% in just four years. LAFC first club to be valued at $1B! Good stuff for the league. Hopefully all clubs if they aren't already, will be operating on profitable basis consistently very soon with new revenues from Apple and other sponsors. Maybe all teams having full charter flights can happen after all? Ha.

[RedBullScouse]

Can't hate on this promo, right?

https://www.facebook...mibextid=Nif5oz

[jjtbone]

Can't hate on this promo, right?

https://www.facebook...mibextid=Nif5oz

This legitimately awesome!   I remember the old checkered cabs, one even took me to my bar mitzvah!

[67% Class]

Oracle Red Bull Racing on Twitter: "New kit, new car, New York Our Season Launch February 3rd https://t.co/YSbXaIE4v9" / Twitter

 

Odds on RB Global including their local RBNY soccer team in with their new RBR livery release in NY?  

Riccardo wearing the new home jersey... good job. 

[SatansHockey]

Can't hate on this promo, right?

https://www.facebook...mibextid=Nif5oz

Feels like it should have Dante on the hood with the new jersey. Cool promo though and it shows off the new colors which I think I'm warming up to but still wanna see what the whole kit looks like first.

[JBigjake54]

RBNY posted nice video on youtube yesterday. 
https://www.youtube....h?v=7i_ZC0BgIsE

1:12 Mateschitz was actually in Hoboken?

[MiLo4891]

Well, all good teams do this. Even big teams like Real Madrid or Barcelona. They just take bigger and bigger risks with their investments.

Every guy we ever had and currently have on this roster is replaceable. We never had an elite talent like messi or ronaldo play in their prime for this club. And only a handful of clubs in the world will ever get that level of talent.

Everyone on this roster is replaceable. Like right now we need to sell casseres. Will we do that? Prob not.

I think you misunderstood my post....

They need to do a better job of having replacements ready for when Metro lose a player.

Brentford have FO personnel that's tasked with identifying replacement players even if the player is not being shopped