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#1 -cman-

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 10:17 PM

I brought my 9 year-old son to his first Fire game Saturday. We had a great time at the tailgate and had a generally fabulous time at one of the great matches. During the tailgate, a little bird had told me something to the effect that there would be a rather large flaring going on. My last words to the guy were, "Be careful, don't hurt yourself or anyone else."

If you have the stones to bring 'em in and light 'em off then you also need to have the stones to make sure you don't hurt yourself or anyone else. At the end of the day, you are lighting off objects that contain their own oxidizer and burn at a more than a thousand degrees. Anything they come into contact with is going to burn or be burned. Badly. Keep the pyro back among the grown-ups and DON'T EVER THROW a lit flare. I love it and respect it, but if you light 'em off you have to at least have the minimum level of maturity to make sure you are ensuring the safety of yourself and others around you.

If anyone ever gets seriously hurt (god forbid a minor) those involved will be looking at more than a night in the pokey and a fine. I love some of you people too much to see your lives and souls ruined by something as trivial as pyro at a soccer game. To say nothing of the matter of what it will do to the relationship between Section 8 and the club. I will set us back years and will make past issues with the club and Monterey seem like a paradise.

So, all I'm asking for is this: If you can handle the security heat for bringing 'em in then you are surely big enough to make sure you don't hurt anyone, EVEN IF IT GUARANTEES YOU WILL BE BUSTED. If you can't do that, then you can't handle them, okay?

I'm now going to go donate for this week's tifo and if everything goes right will be bringing my eight year-old to her first Fire game this weekend.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 10:31 PM

Right on. If anyone fucks shit up for everyone by doing something seriously stupid, they'll have to live with the consequences for themselves and everyone else.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 10:32 PM

If you need to get rid of it, carefully put it on the ground, DO NOT FUCKING THROW IT.
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Posted 09 November 2009 - 10:48 PM

Right on. If anyone fucks shit up for everyone by doing something seriously stupid, they'll have to live with the consequences for themselves and everyone else.


a serious injury in the stands could lead to the end of our club.

that is not hyperbole.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 11:06 PM

a serious injury in the stands could lead to the end of our club.

that is not hyperbole.

Very true. I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to pick up the pieces.
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 06:31 AM

If you need to get rid of it, carefully put it on the ground, DO NOT FUCKING THROW IT.

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Did someone actually throw a flair? Come on... that's just plain stupid.

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 07:47 AM

Indeed.

Also, watch out so you don't burn other peoples flags and other tifo! Someone burned the Stewie two pole and someones Chicago flag the other night! Not only are you going to ruin someones tifo they made, but it can also cause a great deal of harm!


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Posted 10 November 2009 - 07:56 AM

Also, from my understanding of it, using marine signal flares instead of the cheap road flares you can get anywhere reduces the amount of dripping molten slag that comes off of it.

Somebody with more experience can probably add more to this, but basically, just grabbing the emergency flare out of the back of your car can result in a very dangerous situation, especially if you're not experienced with handling them.

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 08:27 AM

Someone burned the Stewie two pole


that SOB was lucky i kept my head on and tom stepped in to get him out. he was told twice by tom and i to stop picking up the flare. on the third time he decided to drop it on stewie and start the whole upper half on fire. somehow the URS two pole underneath it survived. yeah, i know anything in there is free game, but shit. the flare was on the ground behind me and fine. this was just being plain stupid.

marine/orion solas flares are indeed safe because they don't emit molten slag, but you still have to realize it's a flare. things are flammable and pointed in the wrong direction it can and will burn someone.

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 01:09 PM

yeah, i LOVE flares but i have to admit that i got more than a little uneasy when I saw someone holding up a lit flare right in the middle of a group of waving flags. come on, you've got to be smarter than that. frankly, i think it's safest if the flares are just dropped on the ground as soon as they're lit (making sure that there's no banners or whatnot that could catch fire nearby, of course).

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 02:13 PM

Avoid dripping molten slag....Practice safe flaring like y'all would practice safe sex!!!! Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 02:18 PM

Avoid dripping molten slag....Practice safe flaring like y'all would practice safe sex!!!! Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image


for a lot of us, that is a terrible simile...

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 03:06 PM

Allegedly

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 03:11 PM

for a lot of us, that is a terrible simile...


Practice safe sex much??? Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 03:26 PM

I'm fully cognizant of the fact that this is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, the flares add immeasurably to the atmosphere and visuals of the game. Look at the thread for the game and see how many soccer and mainstream sites have used imagery of the flaring in the last few days. It got major play at The Original Winger, and at the Tribune Blog.

On the other hand, people - often immature, drunk people are playing with fire among a tightly packed crowd littered with flammable material.

The solution is obvious: The Club can make this problem go away by authorizing supervised, safe displays of Pyro. That way they get to reap the reward of the priceless optics and keep people from getting hurt.

And yes, I'm perfectly aware that ISA has been going around and around with the Club about this for years. I'm just saying it as a 43 year-old, professional and family person whose been in and around Section 8 since about 1999 and who wants to raise his three kids to be rabid Fire fans and to spread the gospel of soccer love to the unlettered masses out here on the west bank of the Mississippi.

I showed the video to a friend who I am trying to get to come with me to a game with his kid. He's a tough guy but his reaction was, "That looks dangerous as hell." And he's right.

I want to be able to tell him. "Yeah, it's all done by pros."




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