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at this point im assuming we cant go for another DP until Kaku situation is resolved.  I think we will get another DP in the summer at this point. 

Why?  We need a DP with or without Kaku.  If he leaves, that just opens up one more spot and the money to go with it.


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How do you know they dont have a plan B or C? You have insider information that we arent privy to?
 

If we've made other offers, we would know.  What are they waiting for?


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my view is at that time they were assuming Kaku would get sold in Jan.  Now they have a drawn out legal case on their hands.  The cynical person in me thinks Haksa deal fell apart when they realized they wouldnt get the Kaku money this window.  Otherwise its strange for Dyer to get leak that the deal is close, and then it falls apart over $1mm.  Thats sketchy. 

I still have an unsupported feeling that the Haksa deal might not be done... seems like Haksa would have a better shot at a top 5 league through RB network than his current spot. No one else picked him up, so it seems that RB might have had their cost assessment correct.

 

I really want Haksa here, but I don't put this as them being cheap (or waiting on a transfer), but rather them being shrewd.      



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Why?  We need a DP with or without Kaku.  If he leaves, that just opens up one more spot and the money to go with it.


because Kaku at minimum was bringing the club $3mm and now we may get 0.  i would think that materially impacts the transfer budget for a team that usually spends what they receive.



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because Kaku at minimum was bringing the club $3mm and now we may get 0.  i would think that materially impacts the transfer budget for a team that usually spends what they receive.

As long as RB thinks Kaku's claim has no standing (which sounds like they do), then not bringing a player in would be cutting off their nose to spite their face. 



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because Kaku at minimum was bringing the club $3mm and now we may get 0.  i would think that materially impacts the transfer budget for a team that usually spends what they receive.

But he wasn't for sale.   


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Kaku leaving if anything will make the team look for a replacement for him. They already were pursuing attacking options when he was still in the team plans.

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If we've made other offers, we would know.  What are they waiting for?


Dont agree with this at all. As annoying and boring as it makes most days in the off-season, we hear almost no rumors. Most of the guys weve signed this off-season, rumors only swirled a day or so before the deal was done or usually there were no rumors at all.

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Did you know about the Fabio move?

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I think Scouse is talking about DP level signings, if we're going to drop a few mil then I agree odds are good it'll kick up the rumor mill like it did with Haksabonivic

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The Fabio move was a big move as top flight Brazilian clubs were after him and we didnt hear about it until it happened.

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But he wasn't for sale.   

 

As of Jan 20, Oeste was negotiating with a Brazilian club to take Fabio link

 

Then on Jan 23rd Dyer says Haksa talks are dead link

 

Then we swoop in to sign Fabio that week

 

Honestly i think they knew we need some attacking help and when Haksa fell through got Fabio as a cheaper alternative that allows them to reassess what we will do in the summer based on our budget.  They are not the same player but both help the attack nonetheless.    I hope I'm wrong though. 

 

Half of the people here scream from the rooftops that RB is cheap, so i'm surprised so many think RB is above doing this if they perceive the risk of losing a 3-6mm asset for free.



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As of Jan 20, Oeste was negotiating with a Brazilian club to take Fabio link
 
Then on Jan 23rd Dyer says Haksa talks are dead link
 
Then we swoop in to sign Fabio that week
 
Honestly i think they knew we need some attacking help and when Haksa fell through got Fabio as a cheaper alternative that allows them to reassess what we will do in the summer based on our budget.  They are not the same player but both help the attack nonetheless.    I hope I'm wrong though. 
 
Half of the people here scream from the rooftops that RB is cheap, so i'm surprised so many think RB is above doing this if they perceive the risk of losing a 3-6mm asset for free.


The Haksa and Fábio move have nothing to do with the other, the players play completely different positions.

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The Haksa and Fábio move have nothing to do with the other, the players play completely different positions.


if our base formation is 4-1-2-1-2 they play the same position (forward), just different styles.  Clark is our 10.  but moving on from the dead horse. We will see what happens.



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if our base formation is 4-1-2-1-2 they play the same position (forward), just different styles.  Clark is our 10.  but moving on from the dead horse. We will see what happens.


No they dont, Fábio is center forward. Haksa was not coming to play center forward, he has never played that position. Dont know where you got that from.




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