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It would be stupid for them to do a free transfer between sister clubs. It would send up immediate red flags in terms of FIFA fair play, especially in this environment when clubs are getting investigated for this very thing.

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Asked ... if there was a transfer fee involved, RBNYs sporting director responded with a smile, Yes..


https://m.youtube.co...h?v=dv5G7pTt7DY

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It would be stupid for them to do a free transfer between sister clubs. It would send up immediate red flags in terms of FIFA fair play, especially in this environment when clubs are getting investigated for this very thing.

Yeah, would be a very easy political victory for UEFA to clamp down and hand out a severe punishment to an almost universally hated (in Germany) RB Leipzig team for what would be a 5M (?) transfer. Makes zero sense to make a risky move like that for peanuts.



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Makes zero sense to make a risky move ... for peanuts.


I can think of 5 million reasons.

We are good enough to beat the best teams, and bad enough to lose to the worst teams. 


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I can think of 5 million reasons.

Moving 5 million from one bank account to another both belonging to the same people. It's all accounting bullshit. 



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Moving 5 million from one bank account to another both belonging to the same people. It's all accounting bullshit. 


Of course. But, RBL needs to balance its books for BL & FFP more than RBNY does for MLS.

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If Alphonso Davies is worth $22 million to Bayern, Adams is worth a lot more than $5 million.



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If Alphonso Davies is worth $22 million to Bayern, Adams is worth a lot more than $5 million.

 

You're forgetting the automatic 4x transfer fee multiplier for attacking players. Not exactly fair to guys like Tyler but is what it is.



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If Alphonso Davies is worth $22 million to Bayern, Adams is worth a lot more than $5 million.

The base fee was 12M or so, wasn't it? The rest is in potential bonuses. You don't see a lot of deals like that for defensive mids.



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The base fee was 12M or so, wasn't it? The rest is in potential bonuses. You don't see a lot of deals like that for defensive mids.

OK, I see that.  USA Today had it as a straight $22 million transfer fee, but Forbes talks of a $14 million transfer fee and potentially $5 million more in incentives.

 

$22 million for Davies seemed like a lot.

 

https://www.usatoday...llion/37117983/

 

https://www.forbes.c...s/#252615f52cda



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Of course. But, RBL needs to balance its books for BL & FFP more than RBNY does for MLS.

Haven't looked at their financials but didn't they sell Naby Keita for a ton of money this season (Though it was agreed before)?  I would be stunned if they need any significant book balancing.  So give me that GAM



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Haven't looked at their financials

What stopped you?
https://www.goal.com...4m1wswy2btnm5ry
https://bayernstrike...sebastian-rudy/

I would be stunned if they need any significant book balancing. 


Hope you recover.

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What stopped you?
https://www.goal.com...4m1wswy2btnm5ry

That article was posted a year ago (before the Keita transfer). According to the article, they owed ~50M EUR to Red Bull Parent (about 44M GBP).  But since that article was written, they sold Naby Keita to Liverpool for ~50M GBP.  My guess is they're ok in terms of debt/revenue ratio by now.



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That article was posted a year ago ... My guess is they're ok in terms of debt/revenue ratio by now.


Why guess? Research!
https://bayernstrike...sebastian-rudy/

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What stopped you?
https://www.goal.com...4m1wswy2btnm5ry

Hope you recover.

Not much detail there. For the current season, they are significantly in the green from transfers according to TM, roughly by what they spent last season. They did spend significantly two seasons ago.

 

Debt on its own is not much of a problem (iirc Chelsea owe a billion+ to Roman; United pay tens of millions in interest annually), especially when it's (likely) interest-free to the owners.

It is annual net profit/loss that FFP targets, trying to minimize annual losses and eventual bankruptcies a la Leeds/Portsmouth/Parma.

 

3) Are clubs no longer allowed to have losses?

To be exact, clubs can spend up to €5million more than they earn per assessment period (three years). However it can exceed this level to a certain limit, if it is entirely covered by a direct contribution/payment from the club owner(s) or a related party. This prevents the build-up of unsustainable debt.

The limits are:
• €45m for assessment periods 2013/14 and 2014/15
• €30m for assessment periods 2015/16, 2016/17 and 2017/18

 

 

 

An article contemporary to the one you linked to mentions the increase in debt but also says that revenue increased about 40M that year, while wages only went up 20M. 2016 was a pre-CL year and only included half of their 1st Bundesliga season. It's safe to say their income has only increased since; the bigger question is how their expenses, primarily wages, are doing.






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