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Seriously. Our academy is top tier in North America. Supposedly up there with Dallas. Why would a local prodigy be poached by another MLS team when they could join the RBNY pyramid (assuming they're good enough) instead?

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recruiting wars always make you question as to why some kid attends such and such college to play hoops/football/hockey. i don't see that changing at all when it comes to kids in soccer academies, etc. gonna get nasty. 


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What percentage of participants in these programs are eventually signed to contracts?

We are good enough to beat the best teams, and bad enough to lose to the worst teams. 


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Seriously. Our academy is top tier in North America. Supposedly up there with Dallas. Why would a local prodigy be poached by another MLS team when they could join the RBNY pyramid (assuming they're good enough) instead?

It was top tier. As BrianMLS has laid out for all, that is no longer the case. Which is part of the reason Ralf is being put in charge.

Eleazar is dead on accurate about the recruiting aspect of the Academies. Kids are gonna get paid to go to places, whether legally or illegally. Anyone who follows college football knows how this is gonna go. It ain't gonna be easy. We had a massive advantage with the closed geographical boundaries because we had probably the second or third best talent pool in the country under our sole control. Open it up, get some cash payments involved...

I wouldn't be too pollyanna on this stuff, guys. It ain't just gonna be about perceived quality of the Academy.

Hadn't heard the Paderborn stuff, B.

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Kids are gonna get paid to go to places, whether legally or illegally. Anyone who follows college football knows how this is gonna go. It ain't gonna be easy. We had a massive advantage with the closed geographical boundaries because we had probably the second or third best talent pool in the country under our sole control. Open it up, get some cash payments involved...


When the MLS boundaries open up some teams are going to spend a lot of money to snag kids from places far away from them.

And at some point one team will spend a lot of money and come up with a revolutionary way to scout the entire USA without spending TOO much money.

I have no faith that Red Bull will do either.

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When the MLS boundaries open up some teams are going to spend a lot of money to snag kids from places far away from them.

And at some point one team will spend a lot of money and come up with a revolutionary way to scout the entire USA without spending TOO much money.

I have no faith that Red Bull will do either.

Why is it that you think teams that have made relatively minimal investment up to this point will magically change direction following one rule change?      RB has made the academy a priority and have spent at a high level, with talk of a residential academy.    Why would they suddenly decide to back of that strategy?


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Why is it that you think teams that have made relatively minimal investment up to this point will magically change direction following one rule change?


I dont think all teams will do it.

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All teams won't pay kids to come to their academy, but the smart and ambitious ones will. It is a massive ROI potential for very little cash outlay. It's the same reason some of these power 5 schools do not blink at the prospect of throwing 30k at a 5* QB. If the kid wins a bunch of games and gets you into the playoffs, you stand to easily make 100-300x (if not more) what you paid to get him there. If he doesn't? No big harm. Still got a 5* kid there for cheap and his presence probably helped you land some other elite prospects. Just make sure no paper trail and it doesnt lead back to your coaching staff and no sweat.

Dallas just sold a kid for 1.5m and he never played a first team game. If you've got a really, really high end u-16, why not pay him to join your academy for a year and promise to sell him on early in his career?

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RB about to have a first-division club in Brazil.
https://en.m.wikiped...tico_Bragantino
14 points up for automatic promotion with 9 to play:
https://en.m.wikiped...sileiro_S?rie_B
RBNY drops another place on the food chain.

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RB about to have a first-division club in Brazil.
https://en.m.wikiped...tico_Bragantino
14 points up for automatic promotion with 9 to play:
https://en.m.wikiped...sileiro_S?rie_B
RBNY drops another place on the food chain.

this is bad if they send all the Casseres type prospects to that team. 

 

That being said I bet we end up taking more players from this team than we would ever send over.  Plus it should expand the scouting network the club has in South America which is a positive.  The Brazilian league is not a place where I expect RB to do anything else besides exporting talent to RBL and RBS.  



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Better Latin American scouting is a big need, hopefully this results in a few savvy signings (for Metro, not Leipzburg).


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Rb has been in Brazil for a dozen years but I'm sure it's time we get some benefits from their presence in SA.. Keep hoping that we're anything but a lonely billboard in nyc area, synergy is coming!

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Rb has been in Brazil for a dozen years


With a noted lack of success.
https://en.m.wikiped...Red_Bull_Brasil
Stuck in the local Paulista League.
AFAIK, not even in the national 4th division.
So, buying a top-level club is similar to the
strategy by recently successful MLS clubs.

We are good enough to beat the best teams, and bad enough to lose to the worst teams. 


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We had a few rb brazil guys try out but they never made it

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Marcos Paullo is one, iirc. But that team was in the lower depths of Brazil's pyramid. Newly acquired Bragantino might have some players that can perform at this level. 


RIP Guillermo Romulo, Alexander Francis Orig, Celenio Eleazar, and my Mom, Resurreccion Eleazar.

 

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