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#31 DirtyDefender

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:12 AM

A team with this much talent should never, NEVER, fucking lose to Panama. That was a disgusting performance.

A - Men!

With as much talent as we have on the US roster, we should've been able to start Dempsey in Goal and Timmay at Left Mid, and still won.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:28 AM

Losing to the canal diggers is completely unacceptable...

That is all.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 02:40 PM

A - Men!

With as much talent as we have on the US roster, we should've been able to start Dempsey in Goal and Timmay at Left Mid, and still won.


But really ask yourself, where is the talent on this team?

Bradley? Jozy? Agudelo? Ream/Goodson? Wondolowski? Bedoya? They are good players by American standards but most if not all have not proven themselves at the international level or even the club level.

We don't have a Chicharito. We don't have a Marquez. Those guys have played and proven themselves at the highest level. The closest we have is Howard, Dempsey and Donovan. The rest of the cast is subpar and can be exposed by some savvy teams/players. We completely lack the ability to think for ourselves and it shows with losses like Panama.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 03:17 PM

Doesn't erase the fact that a team with three, maybe four (if you include Bocanegra) top level players should beat a team with no players at a comparable level...

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 05:40 PM

The Dump Bob Train is gaining steam.

We’re still seeing a team that does not excite and that plays well only when its back is against the wall -- in other words, in games where the players have to take over, and carefully worked-out game plans have to be abandoned. I doubt it’s a bad as Jozy Altidore painted it after the Spain game -- “I mean, you go into every game with a tactical plan and as soon as the game starts, it tends to get thrown out the window ...” but the impression is unmistakable that these guys play better when they can escape the dead hand of Bradley’s tactics.


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Posted 14 June 2011 - 04:34 PM

But really ask yourself, where is the talent on this team?

Bradley? Jozy? Agudelo? Ream/Goodson? Wondolowski? Bedoya? They are good players by American standards but most if not all have not proven themselves at the international level or even the club level.

We don't have a Chicharito. We don't have a Marquez. Those guys have played and proven themselves at the highest level. The closest we have is Howard, Dempsey and Donovan. The rest of the cast is subpar and can be exposed by some savvy teams/players. We completely lack the ability to think for ourselves and it shows with losses like Panama.

Spot on! Fundamental changes are needed to the pipeline that develops young players.

This is where players like Kyle Beckerman, who really isn't international caliber, can play very high level soccer when he plays for a coach that emphasizes thought and structures the team around principles rather than systems. It's why it hurts so much to see a player like Sean Franklin who used to be creative and expansive in his game as a young player, reduced to running box to box and learning how to deliver crosses to players that can't finish. He functions more like a machine.

Dempsey has become quite creative and expressive at Fulham and is considered to be their most technical player. Holden and Francisco Torres have some of those capabilities, but there are very few US players in the pipeline who have developed thought and creativity to the international level. We have systematically coached it out of them. Michael Bradley is allowed to do what he wants, but I'm not particularly impressed with his ideas.




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