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Seriously? How long are we going to "thank" RB for building us a stadium? I mean back in 2008, half the league didnt have a stadium but now its pretty much standard. Why must we keep using this as some sort of achievement that gets them off the hook for things? Also lets not forget that the stadium was going to get built by the time RB came. All they did was make it better but its not like Metro wasnt going to have a stadium regardless.

This!  I've been trying to point that out in a few other threads as well.  You could actually argue that Red Bull delayed the opening of the stadium by redesigning to make it better.

True - the final product turned out much better but the day the deal with Harrison was announced to build the Stadium,  I had no idea that Red Bull even owned soccer teams and ruined club identities.



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I know everyone says Red Bull made the stadium design better, but it's not as if the previous design by AEG was terrible.  Not to mention, I wonder if that design would have been built to actually accommodate 25,000 fans in terms of rest rooms and concessions, cause RBA certainly isn't.

 

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And if you think not going to games will affect them, your wrong!! Giants Stadium was 95% empty between 2006 and 2009. What it RBNY do??? BUILD A STADIUM AND PACK IT WITH MORE FANS. so go ahead, don't come...

 

I will be there cheering on the team I grew up with regardless who's coaching, who's "GMing" or whose playing!!!

 

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I've noticed a lot more desperation and anger coming from the pro-RB crowd than those who want them gone.  Some shameful stuff posted on Facebook groups and the like...if anything it seems like the pro-RB crowd is way more angry/combative than the people they're accusing of just "being angry"


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It is what is is. Red Bull doesn't look like they are interested in selling, and the support for this "Red Bull Out" movement appears to be limited. Red Bull may have buiilt a stadium, but they are not filling it like they hoped. If Thierry Henry could not pack the place for every game, this years cast should draw a pitance.  Yet everyone on this board who complains will continue to show up. If the supporter groups suddenly stopped showing up, perhaps that will send a message - but that won't happen either.



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There's a couple things that need to be clarified here. I disagree with pretty much everything you said except one thing, and I'll start with that. I'm not giving up on this team either. This is OUR team. It doesn't belong to an energy drink company no matter what the name of the team is. So I understand how you feel when you say you're still going to go to games this next year.

 

What you need to understand is the #RedBullOut movement isn't about "giving up" on the team, it's a boycott. You don't boycott something you don't care about. Over the years the fans have been trying to send a message to our occupiers and they have not listened. It seems the only thing they understand is money, so that's the only option we have left, stop giving them our money.

 

When you ask why now, why the Petke firing, the answer isn't simply that, it's a combination of many things. But the Petke firing is very symbolic of a problem that started the day Red Bull walked in the door. The day they got here they said they were excited about building a history with a team that doesn't have any history. They've never acknowledged that there was a team and a fan base here a long time before they showed up. So now they fire the one guy who is a big fan favorite, played for the club under both team names, and did a very good job when it's all said and done. In his first season as coach he wins the Supporter's Shield. In his second season he's one goal away from MLS Cup. You have to ask yourself, what more did he have to do to keep his job? Win MLS Cup? Are we saying if a coach doesn't win the cup he's out? No wonder we've had the most coaches in league history.

 

But here's the bigger point. Yes, they built us a stadium, but normally when a corporation comes in and funds the building of a new stadium, you name the stadium after them for a certain period of time. Hell, you might even give them the front of jersey logo for a period of time. It's unheard of that you hand over the entire team and rebrand everything in order to build a stadium. As fans, we were promised that if we give up our logo, our colors, our team name, and support this embarrassing branding of an energy drink we will get an owner who is willing to spend more money on the team. We can get bigger signings, we can afford more stability, and "all" we have to give up is the team we grew up loving.

 

So we went along with that, but what have we got? We still have a revolving door of coaches and players. It's CRAZY that no coach in our history has lasted more than three seasons. They fire Bruce Arena after a season and a half and now what is he doing? We're promised bigger signings and what did we get? The only big name player they've ever really signed is Henry. So many signings have passed us by because "we can't afford it".

 

We can't start a USL Pro team because "we can't afford it". (yes, they're finally doing it, but only after us fans yell about it)

 

No one has a love for the Red Bull energy drink. The only reason they're here is because they have money. So when we start hearing them saying they can't afford things, it makes me start to question why they're here to begin with.

 

They're not spending money.

They haven't brought stability.

They haven't helped build a community of fans. (we have)

They haven't brought in a core group of players.

 

What exactly are they doing for us? I agree with you, you can't blame them for player mistakes like the PK encroachment and BWP's yellow card, and all that stuff. No one here is blaming them for player mistakes. We're blaming them for FO mistakes and lack of respect and care.

 

I'm with you in that I'm still supporting my team. Red Bull can't take my team away from me. But I don't have to support them.

 

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Yet everyone on this board who complains will continue to show up.

 

While I'm sure more than a few will conveniently "forget" about this offseason once (if?) the season starts, this isn't ten years ago when there was only one game in town. More than a few of us will choose to get our live soccer fix this year in Chester, the Bronx, or Hempstead.


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While I'm sure more than a few will conveniently "forget" about this offseason once (if?) the season starts, this isn't ten years ago when there was only one game in town. More than a few of us will choose to get our live soccer fix this year in Chester, the Bronx, or Hempstead.

or maybe wherever the usl-pro team plays.


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While I'm sure more than a few will conveniently "forget" about this offseason once (if?) the season starts, this isn't ten years ago when there was only one game in town. More than a few of us will choose to get our live soccer fix this year in Chester, the Bronx, or Hempstead.

Or not go to a soccer game at all. Beleive me folks life doesnt end. Im in LA and I havent gone to 1 LA Galaxy game except MLS CUPS. I still watch plenty of MLS on TV and try and make it to RBA when Im back in NJ. But not going to a stadium every week didnt ruin my life. Id rather not go to games than change allegiances.


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I like the idea of away USLPro games.  Several teams close enough for travel, and (outside of cup games) new stadiums to explore. 



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I've noticed a lot more desperation and anger coming from the pro-RB crowd than those who want them gone.  Some shameful stuff posted on Facebook groups and the like...if anything it seems like the pro-RB crowd is way more angry/combative than the people they're accusing of just "being angry"

I would imagine that is the sort of result you get from taking it ungreased. The funny thing about blind loyalty is you always faceplant in the end.


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