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Not to take anything away from him, but without Henry he would t have half the goals he's scored this season.


Absolutely, but that's irrelevant. You can't just stick any mediocre striker next to Henry and have him produce. Despite how much work Henry needs to do to get the ball to Cooper, he poaches better than almost about anyone this franchise has ever had. And if you can't find cap room for him then it's pathetic.

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Dunno, love Luke Rodgers, but he is a league 2 striker who produced next to Henry. Even Dane Richards did. The most notable exception is Juan Agudelo. (And Sebastien le2)
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if we can have Cooper for 150 -200K then i will keep him at RBNY. anything over that limit, and RBNY is overpaying for Coop. i think le2 can produce but hasnt been given the opportunity to play forward but i would prefer Rodgers if he can come back to RBNY.

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Trade Le2 for Adu?

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if we can have Cooper for 150 -200K then i will keep him at RBNY. anything over that limit, and RBNY is overpaying for Coop. i think le2 can produce but hasnt been given the opportunity to play forward but i would prefer Rodgers if he can come back to RBNY.


I think that's low for Cooper. I feel infuriated on most of Cooper's touches, but the man has scored 18 goals, good for second in the league. Sure, he doesn't do what we want him to do but he has scored and scored. There is a lot to be said about his durability and ability to find himself at the right place at the right time. Yes, many of his goals are the result of a little Henry magic or his teammates' service, but you can't just slot anyone there and get production as we've seen with Agudelo and Le Toux (to be fair he has only played a few games here). Even Luke scored "only" 9 goals in 23 games. Cooper's 18 in 33 is great production.

However, I remember that Cooper's trade had some sort of clause regarding additional compensation should Red Bull sign him for another year. I don't know the details but that could be big and would warrant letting him go. Cooper to Le Toux is not a huge downgrade if that's necessary.

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Cooper to Le Toux is not a huge downgrade if that's necessary.


I don't know how you come to that conclusion. Le Toux absolutely sucks. He can't hit the broad side of a barn and has zero chemistry with anyone.

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I don't know how you come to that conclusion. Le Toux absolutely sucks. He can't hit the broad side of a barn and has zero chemistry with anyone.


He has looked terrible for us true, but he has been played out of position as a RM/RW much of the time and he clearly does not excel there. He's had success in this league over multiple seasons, and I believe that given time he could develop chemistry with the team.

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He has looked terrible for us true, but he has been played out of position as a RM/RW much of the time and he clearly does not excel there. He's had success in this league over multiple seasons, and I believe that given time he could develop chemistry with the team.



+1 Le Toux needs to play in the center to be successful anywhere other than that he is awful.

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+1 Le Toux needs to play in the center to be successful anywhere other than that he is awful.

he would be in Henry's space.. they play a similar role with success and either can play on the wing but better in the center. Le2 will only succeed off the bench of us or he will have to go .
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He has looked terrible for us true, but he has been played out of position as a RM/RW much of the time and he clearly does not excel there. He's had success in this league over multiple seasons, and I believe that given time he could develop chemistry with the team.

I think he might be OK at striker but to be honest the guy was left unprotected by Seattle, had one career year with the worms (playing a very negative counter-attacking style IIRC) and he's been relatively quiet since then and often underwhelming since going to Vancouver. I absolutely do not trust him to produce consistently, and I would be extremely worried if he were to be anywhere near our #2 striker position.

IMO he could serve us well as a #3-4 striker and an emergency RW. That's it. If he's asked to do anything more than that then we're asking for trouble.

I say that unless Coop demands something well over $200k it's a no-brainer to find a place for him on this team...why mess with a good thing?

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My dream lineup for next year...

Henry-Cahill

Lade-Kaka-McCarty-Sam

Pearce-Conde-Holgersson-Barklage

On the bench...

Digao, Keel, 3rd striker, Lindpere, ect, ect

That should be easy to fit under the cap. Sell Meara for allocation money, keep Robles and Gaudette as the tandem.
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