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Weve seen both CCJ and either RZA/Davis, the team did start to look a little better at the end of the season with CCJ playing the deeper role.

It would take some progression by Casseres or some tactical adjustment to elevate either of those pairings to a higher level.

I dont think Armlett are overly convinced judging by the multiple offers for Lopes, but these are the options they are running with

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Davis is a solid MLS center midfielder. He has proven that.  When paired with the right players, he can be a part of the best midfield in the league.

 

The difference in his play from 2018 to 2019 is that he went from being paired with the best center midfielder in the league to being paired with CCJ.  That is going to make him look a lot worse because he is going to have to try to do lot of shit to make up for the drop off from Tyler to CCJ.

 

Getting rid of Davis would do nothing to improve the team.  Even if you brought in superior players, he would be about as high a quality center midfield substitute as exists in the league.    


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If he were better, he would be gone.


Very true. How do you win in this crazy league???

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I know stats don't tell everything, but statistically, looking at tackles and interceptions and passing and the rest, he was actually better (marginally) than Casseres, across the board.  He doesn't have that bursty speed that helps on the eye test, but he's a better player than he gets credit for (why I make the Henderson comparison).

 

I wish someone a lot smarter than I am would dive into this, cause its one of the biggest disconnects between stats and the eye test that I can recall. Dax and Tyler both put up similar numbers, but they just felt so much more in control out there. 

 

A few thoughts come to mind but I'm scrambling to pinpoint any one thing.

 

1) Not all tackles are created equal. Dax and Tyler wouldn't just disrupt play, they'd win the ball cleanly and start attacks the other way.

2) Davis isn't surrounded by guys who win second balls - which was Felipe's specialty. I'm hoping CCJ can do a little better here, he's got the motor for it. 

3) Speaking of motors... even when playing well as a holding midfielder Davis was usually gassed in the second half.



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I wish someone a lot smarter than I am would dive into this, cause its one of the biggest disconnects between stats and the eye test that I can recall. Dax and Tyler both put up similar numbers, but they just felt so much more in control out there. 
 
A few thoughts come to mind but I'm scrambling to pinpoint any one thing.
 
1) Not all tackles are created equal. Dax and Tyler wouldn't just disrupt play, they'd win the ball cleanly and start attacks the other way.
2) Davis isn't surrounded by guys who win second balls - which was Felipe's specialty. I'm hoping CCJ can do a little better here, he's got the motor for it. 
3) Speaking of motors... even when playing well as a holding midfielder Davis was usually gassed in the second half.


Its quite simple. The validity of advanced analytics in sports like soccer and hockey are relatively irrelevant. Its much lore an eye test.

In a game like baseball, where its a 1:1 matchup with a pitcher and hitter.....a game within the game, its much more statistically relevant. Even in baseball, the fielding stats and advanced analytics are really poor. You can track things like ground covered but you cant statistically track if an outfielder gets a good jump when the ball leaves the bat.


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I wish someone a lot smarter than I am would dive into this, cause its one of the biggest disconnects between stats and the eye test that I can recall. Dax and Tyler both put up similar numbers, but they just felt so much more in control out there. 
 
A few thoughts come to mind but I'm scrambling to pinpoint any one thing.
 
1) Not all tackles are created equal. Dax and Tyler wouldn't just disrupt play, they'd win the ball cleanly and start attacks the other way.
2) Davis isn't surrounded by guys who win second balls - which was Felipe's specialty. I'm hoping CCJ can do a little better here, he's got the motor for it. 
3) Speaking of motors... even when playing well as a holding midfielder Davis was usually gassed in the second half.

Id investigate 2.

Armas said last season that they were doing a shit job of winning second balls.

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Sean Davis was a serviceable MLS central mid up until last season. Not sure if he was nursing an injury or what, but it looked like he lost about 3 steps last season. Was constantly late to challenges and 50-50 balls. Looked like he was running through mud relative to his other midfield teammates.

I can forgive the sideways passes since maybe that's what armas asked of him. But on a team with a 2 man central mid where you're expected to be a monster on both sides of the ball, Davis was decidedly sub par last year.


I think armas needs to do a better job rotating his midfield. Davis, kaku, rza, casseres, and valot should all be seeing playing.

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If you look up Davis's stats on whoscored he is a pretty average to below average midfielder for mls.  His passing percentage is bad, he doesn't produce goals or assists, and isn't the fastest if you wanted to play him as a 6 to close down space.   I have felt for the last year his position is in need of upgrading,.  Maybe CCJ will progress and take his spot full time.






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