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PS We beat Seattle 3-0 to get into the Semis.

 

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Who are the top prospects on this team?  any HG players? or will they go to college...or the USL team?


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RIP Cesar Castello and Mike Vallo

 

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Who are the top prospects on this team?  any HG players? or will they go to college...or the USL team?

I like xavier kennedy (gk), brian saramago, noah powder, zaire bartley, jared gilbey, ryan mingachos

 

some people are high on Jean Paul Marin and Mason Deeds.

 

Saramago is another goal machine, but that could go away any time he moves onto the next age/skill level. Like Mingachos. Kennedy could be really talented, but we're set on keepers for a while.

 

It comes down to what parents want, usually. We could have a USL team full of Academy players, but parents would rather their kids go to college first. One of the downsides of having an Academy full of kids going to good schools.


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Just means we get em for the PDL U23 team, no?


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Noah Powder, Mason Deeds, and Xavier Kennedy would be the first three to go after, IMO.

Zaire Bartley, JP Marin, Sean Teixeira right there too. Saramago and Mingachos have stood out lately as well.

 

Like MoS stated, the downfall is that the academy players are exposed to colleges all over the country looking to give full rides.

Think about it from a parents' perspective. Do you encourage your kid to go to a D1, well recognized school and get a free education that will help for the rest of their sons life? Or do you hope they make it as a pro, give up any scholarship opportunities and get excited that they are playing in front of 400 people at a RBNYII game earning, maybe $35,000 as a USL player and last an average of 2 to 5 years in MLS?


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Hope we can get Noah Powder on a deal with RBNYII instead of going to college (which is a big question). Probably the best player for us there imo.



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Hope we can get Noah Powder on a deal with RBNYII instead of going to college (which is a big question). Probably the best player for us there imo.

He's certainly an interesting one. A lot can happen in the next two years though. You never know who is going to come out of nowhere and develop.


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He's certainly an interesting one. A lot can happen in the next two years though. You never know who is going to come out of nowhere and develop.

There are so many players that falter towards the pro level. Many factors play into it - training habits, injuries, burnout, other interests, ego, and just not being able to hit that extra gear needed to play professionally all play into it. I have an excel file (yes, I'm a bit of a stat nerd) with 235 players that have played with this team from the U16 level to the U23s since 2009, not including the current USL signed players. Nine of them signed Homegrown Player Contracts (and only a handful play in MLS any longer) and I only know of 39 total that ended up playing professionally. Take away the USL Academy and our USL signed players in Adams, Borges, Castellanos, Etienne, Lochner, Manosalvas, Metzger, Plewa, JS Sanchez, and Zajec and another handful at the USL level on other teams: very few of these guys actually make it to the pro level. 


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There are so many players that falter towards the pro level. Many factors play into it - training habits, injuries, burnout, other interests, ego, and just not being able to hit that extra gear needed to play professionally all play into it. I have an excel file (yes, I'm a bit of a stat nerd) with 235 players that have played with this team from the U16 level to the U23s since 2009, not including the current USL signed players. Nine of them signed Homegrown Player Contracts (and only a handful play in MLS any longer) and I only know of 39 total that ended up playing professionally. Take away the USL Academy and our USL signed players in Adams, Borges, Castellanos, Etienne, Lochner, Manosalvas, Metzger, Plewa, JS Sanchez, and Zajec and another handful at the USL level on other teams: very few of these guys actually make it to the pro level. 

Right? Two years ago, everyone would have told you that WW and MD were the next great American strikers. Banging in goals for the Academy, starting game in and game out for the youth national teams. Now neither of them can crack the starting lineup for the Academy team, let alone get a call up. 

 

Shit changes.


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Right? Two years ago, everyone would have told you that WW and MD were the next great American strikers. Banging in goals for the Academy, starting game in and game out for the youth national teams. Now neither of them can crack the starting lineup for the Academy team, let alone get a call up. 

 

Shit changes.

Whatever happened to Johnny X?  :blink:


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They're playing now. 1-1.

 

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Medellin goalkeeper Perez just threw a forearm right into Mason Deeds' face. Bullshit.

 

Red card to Perez. Yellow to Deeds.



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Minganchos just scored the go ahead goal off a free kick in early extra time.

 

EDIT: Apparently Deeds had gotten a 2nd yellow before.



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