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Wesley So, who is a US legal resident, not a citizen, and travels with a Phillipines passport. He plays for the US Chess Federation. So has emerged from the 3 young superstars that play chess for the US. Now he is number 2 in the World.

 

https://www.washingt...:homepage/story

 



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So is ethnically Chinese:
https://en.m.wikiped...hinese_Filipino
Hard to believe that Carlsen is only 26.

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So is ethnically Chinese:
https://en.m.wikiped...hinese_Filipino
Hard to believe that Carlsen is only 26.

 

http://www.positivel...p-in-the-making

 

Born on October 9, 1993, of Filipino and Chinese parents, he learned chess moves from his father when he was seven years old. He began playing in tournaments when he was nine and won his first event in 2003 in the under-10 category of the national age-group championships.

 

Doesn't say which parent in Chinese.



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Born ... of Filipino and Chinese parents ... Doesn't say which parent i(s)Chinese.

wiki entry says both parents are Hakka Chinese
https://en.m.wikiped.../wiki/Wesley_So
https://en.m.wikiped...ki/Hakka_people
Your linked article says that his parents emigrated to Canada, leaving him behind in the Philippines. Odd IMO that he later moved to the USA & now lives with another family.

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Fabiano Caruana (USA) will be the challenger against Magnus Carlsen of Norway. Match to be in London in November. First USA challenger since that guy from Brooklyn.

 

http://blog.chessbom...candidates.html



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https://www.stltoday...92608ef6fb.html

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And it has begun. Draw in first of the 12 long time-control games. Magnus had white, so Fabiano will play white next game.

 

Quite different from the days of Fischer-Spassky. For those too young at the time 1972, Fischer-Spassky was a month and a half of publicity no sport ever experienced. Imagine the Super Bowl, World Cup and the Beatles coming to America all together and more. It was the USA vs the USSR, middle of the Cold War and the height of the Vietnam War. It was youth vs establishment. Honesty vs Cheating. Historians will not consider it to be a "battle" of the Cold War, but in an abstract sense, it was. And the looney genius from Brooklyn won!

 

https://en.wikipedia...ampionship_1972



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Fischer-Spassky was ... the Super Bowl, World Cup and the Beatles coming to America


On first read, I thought you were suggesting that the matches took place in the USA. Of course, it was Iceland.

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Well, this wont help the sport:
http://www2.philly.c...y-20181019.html

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Well, this wont help the sport:
http://www2.philly.c...y-20181019.html

This type of horrific activity is turning up in many different contexts. You have to wonder why it took so long to be reported.

 

As for the chess match, it has 6 draws so far out of 6 games, with 6 games left. There are several live youtube analyses going on, and you can also go through them after the game.

 

https://chess24.com/en/wcc2018



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You have to wonder why it took so long to be reported.


The children were the real pawns.

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Fabiano Caruana (USA) will be the challenger against Magnus Carlsen of Norway. Match to be in London


https://www.bbc.com/...europe-46376998

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12 ties, what a grand master!

 

wtf


Sometimes I think the entire Red Bull existence has been some 19 year old kids football manager save file he only plays when he comes home drunk. - 'Mibabalou'

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The players came up with plenty of surprises, but none of them were able to make the opponent blunder. What is now different is that when a player has a surprise (to be technical, it is called a "novelty") in the opening series of moves, he can check it with a computer to be sure it is valid. In the old days, a player had to analyze it by himself or with his support team.

 

So most of the blame for the 12 draws goes to the players.

 

But a lot of blame also goes to the structure of the tournament. A select group of 8 play a candidates tournament where each plays the other twice. In this tournament, winning and taking chances is a necessity because you only have a 1 in 8 chance to become the challenger. Now the actual championship is a cautious affair because with only 12 games, and so much at stake, you have to hold back and worry more about losing than winning at least until there is a break through. (Sort of like soccer- it can take 60 minutes for the first goal, then 3 goals are scored in the last 30 minutes.) In 3 of the last 4 championship matches, the match went to tie-breakers. So the world champion of "slow" chess has been determined by ability in "fast" chess for 3 of the last 4 championships. The only redeeming feature of the current structure is that there is a world championship match every 2 years.

 

Nevertheless, it is well accepted that Magnus Carlsen is still the best player on the planet.






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