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Has Armas lost the team

  1. YES (29 votes [67.44%] - View)

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  2. NO (7 votes [16.28%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.28%

  3. waittill end of regular ends & then decide (7 votes [16.28%] - View)

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I am a great  supporter of stability of clubs aka pittsburgh steelers who stick with their managers thru good & bad times. IMO I'm afraid that Armas has lost influence & control of this team. If we  continue to play awful football & fail to make the playoffs then it is time for management to consider replacing him but only if he can a proven winner in mls. 



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He lost it awhile ago. It's really not even up for a debate to me.

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I don't think the players blame him for their woes (yet).


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Usually when you talk about losing the team you're talking about mentality and effort. Other than some tough spells from guys who were clearly hoping to cash in on a transfer opportunity, it doesn't seem to me like that's what's going on here.

 

I just don't think Armas is as good of a coach as Marsch. He can't settle on an identity that he wants the team to play with, or he's not as good as communicating that vision to the players. Under Marsch our guys moved as a total unit 100% of the time, under Armas it often looks like 11 guys just rolled the ball out and picked a new FIFA formation to try out.



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Usually when you talk about losing the team you're talking about mentality and effort. Other than some tough spells from guys who were clearly hoping to cash in on a transfer opportunity, it doesn't seem to me like that's what's going on here.

 

I just don't think Armas is as good of a coach as Marsch. He can't settle on an identity that he wants the team to play with, or he's not as good as communicating that vision to the players. Under Marsch our guys moved as a total unit 100% of the time, under Armas it often looks like 11 guys just rolled the ball out and picked a new FIFA formation to try out.

I agree with this. Armas is trying, he's just not that good. You're not getting a lot of the peripheral BS and pouting you see from teams where the team is at odds with the coach. The story is probably that Marsch had the team overachieving and the talent/investment gap is showing it's head.



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Usually when you talk about losing the team you're talking about mentality and effort. Other than some tough spells from guys who were clearly hoping to cash in on a transfer opportunity, it doesn't seem to me like that's what's going on here.
 
I just don't think Armas is as good of a coach as Marsch. He can't settle on an identity that he wants the team to play with, or he's not as good as communicating that vision to the players. Under Marsch our guys moved as a total unit 100% of the time, under Armas it often looks like 11 guys just rolled the ball out and picked a new FIFA formation to try out.


IMO hes lost the team BECAUSE of this.

Lots of guys not getting stuck in. Not fighting for 50/50s. Casually giving up on plays. Losing their shit at the ends of games.

Hes lost them.

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The issue Armas is having is that the league adapted to the press. Teams are pumping the ball to rb's wing back position. Teams know that if they just lob into that direction they are going to get one or two good opportunities on goal. Armas needs to wake up and switch to five in the back to stop these hail mary passes.

The league also knows that rbny lost a step when they counter.lets face it, bwp is not the same this year and no one in mid had Adam's athletic ability. Sims was supposed to improve this ability.


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The issue Armas is having is that the league adapted to the press.


You realize that we dont press anymore.


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The issue Armas is having is that the league adapted to the press. Teams are pumping the ball to rb's wing back position. Teams know that if they just lob into that direction they are going to get one or two good opportunities on goal. Armas needs to wake up and switch to five in the back to stop these hail mary passes.

The league also knows that rbny lost a step when they counter.lets face it, bwp is not the same this year and no one in mid had Adam's athletic ability. Sims was supposed to improve this ability.


We dont press and we have never been able to execute quality counterattacks on a consistent basis.

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Armas just feels like a substitute teacher to me.

I think Marsch had a personal ambition that made the fit with rb work, Armas lacks that.

Marsch wants to be a coach at the highest level and while that means rbny was always a stepping stone/platform for him (doing badges etc), I think thats a better fit than Armas.

Marsch wants to be great, Armas wants to be comfortable. What has he done to make himself a better coach?

He wants to live on Long Island and spend half the workday driving to and from training, trying to convince us that hes plotting tactical brilliance when sitting in traffic.

Armas the player was very good, I remember him scoring the usisl winning goal for rough riders in 95.

He never went to Europe to play and I just dont think he is ambitious enough to be successful given the constraints from this organization.

What did he do to build his resume before getting the rb job? Coaching low level college soccer and high school?

They should go get one of these young German hot shot coaches who wants to be a manager from late 20s/early 30s. Maybe that would get ny better prospects from Leipzig/Salzburg than the likes of Damari and Rza.

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Nit : Savarese scored the game winner with seconds left. Armas scored the opener

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Losing Tyler and his quality intensity cant be overstated for a team at vital spot to their style would be much worse and BWP regression along withwhole back line


That being said Armas is still learning and growing as a coach. Baffling why CCJ is not automatic and sims decision weird as well. I. Get playing BWP to try to reignite an important player.


As far as Armas not being ambitious the guy lived lots of places during his his career and came back from 2 ? ACL to get into best 11. To early to tell if he wants comfort now or can raise his level learn with trial by fire given local opportunity.

Done no favors with all the issues and low budget AND HENEEDS TO STEP IT UP WITH WHAT HE HAS.

Wouldnt mind a little more angry yelling team needs to step it up attitude. I get his style but think a little more fire like Marsch / Bradley / Arena who he worked under is called for.

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I think Armas' man management and keeping the locker room is his biggest strength as coach. Just he doesn't have many new ideas to dig us out of our rut and we are talent deficient relative to the rest of the league and relative to last year. 

 

it's not like we have a bunch of disciplinary problems or team mates fighting or something like that. 

 

Perfect example of losing the locker room is Friedel in NE. Armas doesn't have anywhere near the types of problems the Revs had. 



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I think Armas' man management and keeping the locker room is his biggest strength as coach. Just he doesn't have many new ideas to dig us out of our rut and we are talent deficient relative to the rest of the league and relative to last year. 

 

it's not like we have a bunch of disciplinary problems or team mates fighting or something like that. 

 

Perfect example of losing the locker room is Friedel in NE. Armas doesn't have anywhere near the types of problems the Revs had. 

There's bad, than there's Friedel. Unbelievable that he lasted as long as he did.



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I dont think so, I honestly just think the team is poor.

Take away BWP and Adams and we would have been pretty average over the last few years.

And look we did and were average.

The back lines been chopped and changed so much and I still think the back 5 is elite but the later and later and the season is giving me less and less hope that we get there.

I cant see us winning away in atl / philly / Nycfc two matches in a row.






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