Jump to content


Member Since 03 Sep 2010
Offline Last Active Today, 04:36 PM

#1357423 Random Player Name Thread 2020

Posted by iced1776 on 28 November 2019 - 09:55 AM

Sjoberg isn't mobile enough for this system. If we played a more conservative style then I'd be on board.

You can be slow in our system and succeed, you just need to be willing to take a record-setting number of yellow cards



#1357330 Kemar Lawrence wants out

Posted by iced1776 on 26 November 2019 - 11:13 AM

I dont see why he needs another raise. Its not like he is making 40k... he is making almost 400k.


Presumably because another team would be willing to give it to him. "Be happy with what you have" is a tough pitch to a guy who has other teams telling him they'll double his wages.


Five years ago in MLS I'd agree with you about the amount spent on the back line, but with the resources available to teams today I think there's plenty room to take a risk on a guy who can be a game changer for us. Tossing him an extra $200k wouldn't be stopping us from still getting a quality striker, winger, and CM. 

#1357323 Kemar Lawrence wants out

Posted by iced1776 on 26 November 2019 - 10:41 AM

Long and parker make roughly 800k. They could both be considered DPs if rbny doesnt buy down their salary with garber bucks.

Kemar makes roughly 400k. He is not starving or being underpaid. i dont see a fullback in mls that is making more than him.


I value Kemar much higher than you do, I would put his importance on the field easily on par with Long and Parker. The fact that the rest of the left backs in MLS are garbage doesn't change how good Kemar is.


The team gets $1.2M in free Garberbucks to use as TAM every year, on top of whatever general allocation and leftover TAM they have. They could in theory spend another $2.8M of their own money (lol) that would still count as TAM. There is room here to pay Kemar and still add several other expensive impact players. It's just on Red Bull to spend a bit.

#1357278 Kemar Lawrence wants out

Posted by iced1776 on 25 November 2019 - 06:07 PM

Didnt He just get a new contract last year?


He did, and then both Long and Parker signed contracts worth 3x as much. I think his agent realizes how badly he got lowballed and is making a power play.

#1357241 What would it take for Red Bull to sell?

Posted by iced1776 on 25 November 2019 - 01:52 PM

Whenever people come out and say "But Red Bull has won 3 Supporters Shields in 6 years, built a great academy, and built a great stadium" I always want to just say "Yeah, but then why are a lot of fans still unhappy?" Like, any other fanbases like at LAFC or even SKC would love the results we had but ours is still very much upset against ownership.


Every fanbase on the planet has its share of miserable people and they tend to be the loudest. I guarantee I could find you New England Patriots fans who would have you think the sky is falling.

#1356954 Royer targeted by LASK Linz?

Posted by iced1776 on 20 November 2019 - 11:45 AM

The young wingers could produce a 7g and 4a season if they were given a chance.


They've all been given a chance, they've all failed to even come close to the pretty low bar you're setting with 7g/4a. Not everyone who succeeds in USL will become the next Miazga or Adams, most of them will flare out. I think Red Bull fans have become a little spoiled in our expectations of the youth pipeline. Its supposed to be a way to supplement the roster, it's not supposed to be the roster.


But even if we think any of those guys can hit those meager expectations, that's an 8 goal drop-off from Royer's season. Eight fewer goals in the season is a good number of wins that just turned to draws, draws that turn to losses. There's an argument to be made that we don't even make the playoffs in 2019 with that sort of drop.

#1356931 Royer targeted by LASK Linz?

Posted by iced1776 on 19 November 2019 - 03:02 PM

If we can move royer, the team should do it. He is replaceable. Omir, etienne, muyl and valot could replace him.


Pass me a hit of whatever you're having. Royer has 10+ goals and a handful of assists in three straight seasons, that's elite for an MLS winger. It's debatable if any of the four guys you mentioned would even start on a mediocre MLS team, let alone put up elite numbers.


Relying too much on USL quality guys is a big part of why the team is struggling right now, I'd prefer not to double down on that strategy.

#1356885 Southampton offered Long?

Posted by iced1776 on 18 November 2019 - 10:37 AM

Should never keep guys who want to leave.   Almost always ends up being bad for everyone.  


Will hurt to lose him without a doubt, need to fill that position.  And not with Tarek because he's not a starter.


Tarek didn't have the most illustrious career before we traded for him, but I thought he was excellent in 2019 and is starting-quality in MLS if he continues at that level. Depth behind him becomes a black abyss though.

#1356760 2020 Offseason Thread

Posted by iced1776 on 14 November 2019 - 11:58 AM

I think I'm in the camp of why bother with a TAM striker.  White when he was healthy put up really solid numbers.  Between him and Barlow, we should get solid performance up there.
Use the money at the 6 position.

MLS allows up to $4M in TAM to be spent in 2019, $1.2M of which is a total freebie. You could basically field an entire starting lineup of DP and TAM players if you really wanted to go full "win now" mode.

#1356554 Davis' destiny

Posted by iced1776 on 07 November 2019 - 09:53 AM

Our system doesn't differentiate much between a 6 or an 8. You just need two guys with good motors who can make plays on both ends of the field. Adams was an extreme outlier, but was that guy. CCJ is that guy. Rza can be that guy.

Davis used to be that guy, but not sure what his deal was this year in that he seemed to lose like 3 steps. He was constantly late to balls, and seemed fatigued when in past years he could last a whole 90. Based on that alone I'd say we need someone else out there instead of him.


Davis has always been better the further up field he is. I think his best role as a Red Bull was opposite Royer as an attacking mid in the 3-3-3-1.


He's never passed the eye test as a #6 even though he puts up decent defensive stats. I think a lot of that has to do with his motor like you mentioned. Armas would put him out there in a 4-1-4-1 and ask him to cover the entire central midfield by himself, and his legs would just collapse by the 60th minute. For my money its the biggest reason we lost the CCL semis.


I think both Armas and Marsch preferred having a dedicated #6 considering how often they both tried to shoehorn Davis in there - Marsch in 2017 after Dax left and Armas this past year after Adams left.

#1356325 2020 Offseason Thread

Posted by iced1776 on 30 October 2019 - 10:37 AM



What about Ralfs increased involvement has you feeling it will be the same?


What about the increased scouting and analysis has you thinking it will be the same?


There's been a lot of talk about these sorts of things over the last few years and their actions rarely ever live up to the hype. If words alone were enough, we'd have a roster on par with LAFC right now. I think every Red Bull fan is perfectly reasonable to take the "believe it when I see it" approach here.

#1355933 The Fire Chris Armas Thread

Posted by iced1776 on 23 October 2019 - 09:02 AM

If making the playoffs is Red Bull's metric for a successful season, we're in trouble. MF made a good point in his write up here, miracle playoffs runs are going to quickly become a thing of the past with more teams entering the league, parity quickly disappearing as some owners outspend the rest, and a playoff format that requires a slew of away wins against the league's best. Gone are the days where the bottom seeded team can realistically win a Cup.

#1355861 2019 NYRBII USL Thread

Posted by iced1776 on 22 October 2019 - 11:19 AM

Heavily mismanaged unless there is some injury the team
is hiding as they do often do. Idk how you go from getting a start in CCL vs. Santos Laguna is Mexico and scoring a goal to getting little to no minutes with the 1st team or the 2s.

Keeping him on the bench or out of the 18 entirely and barely giving him any minutes at the USL level is a wasted season. These kids need minutes for development.


This sounds like what I call the "field of dreams" approach to youth development. We assume that if you just keep throwing minutes at a player, regardless of the quality of their play, they'll hit an elite level eventually.


In his 19 appearances, Omir had a few great games, a few poor games, and lot of pretty mediocre games. I think he was given a fair enough shot to prove he's the guy for the spot and just couldn't capitalize on it. I'm hopeful he'll step it up in 2020, but this season's ~600 minutes sounds about right to me.


Sounds like pretty much the same conversation we've all been having about Etienne for his career too.

#1355794 Metro - Worms Playoff Thread

Posted by iced1776 on 21 October 2019 - 12:11 PM

Murillo and Buck are both almost guaranteed to give up a goal a game due to a defensive lapse. But Murillo can actually contribute going forward, Buck looks like a child with the ball at his feet out there. I think Armas got that one dead wrong.

#1355599 2020 Offseason Thread

Posted by iced1776 on 20 October 2019 - 05:22 PM




Good call, tough to imagine much else happening unless this is the first action of the off-season.