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Not being on the roster doesn't mean unsuccessful - Ream.


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I couldn't think of it. Not Lade...

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Another unsuccessful SuperDraft.
Who is the only draftee of the RB era still on the first-team roster?

Ryan Meara


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Lade.



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Lade.


Lade wasn't drafted I think. HG signing.

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Zizzo is probably more versatile, Marsch has used as a fullback, center back, & midfielder this season.  And Lade is probably the closest thing we have to a Dax on our roster.  He's going to give you fight, Bilyeu probably can't.

Yeah, let's just say Marsch rates Zizzo way more highly than I do! And I really appreciate Lade's hustle and heart, but that takes you only so far. Skills/physical limitations put a hard ceiling on him, and at 27 he is what he is, a decent utility/depth player with a large heart.



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Yeah, let's just say Marsch rates Zizzo way more highly than I do! And I really appreciate Lade's hustle and heart, but that takes you only so far. Skills/physical limitations put a hard ceiling on him, and at 27 he is what he is, a decent utility/depth player with a large heart.

Fair enough.



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Lade.

Lade was a homegrown signing. He wasn't drafted. Meara was drafted in 2012.


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Late yesterday, Lade made a pass in from the left wing that drew gasps from the crowd. Was like a diagonal through ball that found its target in the box. Never saw that from him before. Hope they keep Lade forever, he's got a little bit of that It, and improves bit by bit.

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Late yesterday, Lade made a pass in from the left wing that drew gasps from the crowd. Was like a diagonal through ball that found its target in the box. Never saw that from him before. Hope they keep Lade forever, he's got a little bit of that It, and improves bit by bit.


He had a really nice cross to BWP from the right that went wide.

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Late yesterday, Lade made a pass in from the left wing that drew gasps from the crowd. Was like a diagonal through ball that found its target in the box. Never saw that from him before. Hope they keep Lade forever, he's got a little bit of that It, and improves bit by bit.

 

As is almost always the case with Lade, he gives and he takes. He had a few awesome crosses, a few awful giveaways, and two of the weakest attempts at a "tackle" I've seen in a long time. But overall, awesome guy to have as a backup.



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Don't think he's markedly worse than our other true backup options at LB (Lade and Zizzo?). Long is probably better but we need him at CB.

Bilyeu is younger and has higher upside and a low salary, so I don't really understand why we're getting rid of him a half season in, even he's sucked badly this year.

 

This is getting a little philosophical, but just because a player is young does it mean he has upside? Any time I watched Bilyeu he showed the one trait that kills almost any potential to make it at the next level - he played scared. You can refine ball skills and study tactics all day, but if you don't have the mentality to look at the guy across from you and be confident you'll win, none of it does much good.

 

And this is where the college vs. academy debate comes in, but Bilyeu is a 23 year old "young" player. If he was 18 and struggling to improve it'd be one thing, but how long do you wait around for a guy entering his mid-20's?



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So does this mean that Baah is healthy and start playing the remaining of the season with the usl squad?

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This is getting a little philosophical, but just because a player is young does it mean he has upside? Any time I watched Bilyeu he showed the one trait that kills almost any potential to make it at the next level - he played scared. You can refine ball skills and study tactics all day, but if you don't have the mentality to look at the guy across from you and be confident you'll win, none of it does much good.

 

And this is where the college vs. academy debate comes in, but Bilyeu is a 23 year old "young" player. If he was 18 and struggling to improve it'd be one thing, but how long do you wait around for a guy entering his mid-20's?

He's been a part of the first team for less than 6 months. I think you can give him a little more than that. Long's been pretty good as a rookie at 24. Davis is now 24 and played well at age 23 last year. Lade has had a relatively small but important part after starting around the same time as Bilyeu. I know those guys were good from the very beginning of their MLS careers, but you're allowed to start off shakily. As an extreme example, Spurs didn't win a game in the first ~20 games Gareth Bale started for them. That worked out okay.

 

I certainly don't think Bilyeu will eventually be Dani Alves or even Taxi, but he can be a decent, affordable MLS player - or at least, I don't think you can definitively say he won't be at this stage. Obviously the RB guys whose job it is to say that disagree. :)



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This is getting a little philosophical, but just because a player is young does it mean he has upside? Any time I watched Bilyeu he showed the one trait that kills almost any potential to make it at the next level - he played scared. You can refine ball skills and study tactics all day, but if you don't have the mentality to look at the guy across from you and be confident you'll win, none of it does much good.

 

And this is where the college vs. academy debate comes in, but Bilyeu is a 23 year old "young" player. If he was 18 and struggling to improve it'd be one thing, but how long do you wait around for a guy entering his mid-20's?

Scared or lack of desire, I think is maybe what did him in.  Looked like a decent passer, but he seemed to lose his man a lot.  Really wish the experiment with at CB had worked out, as he has the size and we could use a CB with some passing skills out of the back.






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