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Lawrence - contract and should we sell?


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That's because mls does not pay it's players. But if we paid Kemar like he is a top 3 player on the team he would stay. It's funny how the likes of Vernon and Baah can stay on the team for 2 and 3 years or more but our good to very good players are let go. And we wonder why we can't win MLS cup or champions league.


We're not cursed. We're just cheap as hell!

 

Both Agudelo and Miazga were clear - there was no offer any MLS team could make that would change their mind about playing in Europe. We even offered Miazga a DP contract, several of them according to Curtis. Its very much the reality of where MLS stands in the world of soccer that money alone won't always keep players around. 

 

And like others have said, if its clear that the player is leaving at the end of his contract no matter what, then you kind of have to get something or replacing them gets that much more difficult.



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That's because mls does not pay it's players. But if we paid Kemar like he is a top 3 player on the team he would stay. It's funny how the likes of Vernon and Baah can stay on the team for 2 and 3 years or more but our good to very good players are let go. And we wonder why we can't win MLS cup or champions league.


We're not cursed. We're just cheap as hell!

He wouldn't necessarily stay if we paid him as a top player. Miazga got  decent contract offer and skipped the fuck to Chelsea, who aren't even ever going to play him.

 

Kemar gets an offer from a medium team in one of the top leagues in Europe, and he is outta here. It will likely exceed any non-DP salary we can offer him, and increase his exposure and opportunities to sign an even bigger contract with a bigger team in the future.

 

Maaaybe we can keep top talent if we overpay them like TFC with Bradley and Altidore, but I don't want to do that with a fullback (or really any player).



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Both Agudelo and Miazga were clear - there was no offer any MLS team could make that would change their mind about playing in Europe. We even offered Miazga a DP contract, several of them according to Curtis. Its very much the reality of where MLS stands in the world of soccer that money alone won't always keep players around. 

 

And like others have said, if its clear that the player is leaving at the end of his contract no matter what, then you kind of have to get something or replacing them gets that much more difficult.

I see your point but isn't it worth keeping your best player so far on the year to try to stay at high level and get silverwear?  

Of course that why they pay them the bucks to be managers to assess if the team has been playing well enough without Kemar you get a trasnfer fee and let the guy get PAID.

But then again if  our form cools then good to have your best player on the year back. 

dang tough one. 


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There are no rumors of a sale, and this is all just hypothetical, right?

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There are no rumors of a sale, and this is all just hypothetical, right?

Not recently, no.  Just his comments about being underpaid.


Frankly, since I am merely a fan and a not a fancy American soccer writer, I'm going to congratulate Wright-Phillips on a well hit goal. If I was an American soccer writer, I'd claim that the recently retired Henry was wearing an invisibility cloak and carried the ball into the net for the obviously unskilled Wright-Phillips.


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curious what do you think he is worth as top 3 LB in the league?
Lawrence gets 100K Base but 205K Comp?  Big range - not sure what drives that.
Afful gets ~ 275K and Beitashour ~$250.  Baah is in that range.
So his top end is within distance of Afful and Beitashour.  
 
also, replacment cost?  
Right now you could say nothing as Myul and Lade could amply step in - granted not to his level but I would be ok with them starting multiple games. 
Always tough to find LB - do we have any prospect for his role ?Noah Powder but I think he is a right back
 
By the way is Aaron Long the best bargain going?  65K and has played in/started every game - dang.

We haven't had a LB of his caliber maybe ever.  I'd give him 250k, 2-4 year deal and let him boss the left side.  When you get a good LB, you hold on to him.


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We haven't had a LB of his caliber maybe ever.  I'd give him 250k, 2-4 year deal and let him boss the left side.  When you get a good LB, you hold on to him.


Actually the CURRENT system makes him just a little more expendable. I say CURRENT in caps cause who knows what we'll be playing in either the short or long term future.

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Any system where Zizzo is my starter instead of Taxi is not OK with me.


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Hopefully we can use some of the Adidas MLS contract to get some money to increase the salaries somehow? Man, Adidas has a ton a money.



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We haven't had a LB of his caliber maybe ever.  I'd give him 250k, 2-4 year deal and let him boss the left side.  When you get a good LB, you hold on to him.


Ditto. I'd go as high as 400k. Increase his role and let him produce for us. You guys realize he is he best full back in the region. If you doubt please name me one better?

Show him the money. Let's keep our world class talent.




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