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#31 MDSCIan

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 03:24 PM

I'll not be deterred by the naysayers! This will not be derailed by nursery rhymes! By hook or by crook I'll make D.O.T. the goddamn Chicago Fire fucking anthem!


Blah, last time you said this we got stuck with DSLITR

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 03:51 PM

Blah, last time you said this we got stuck with DSLITR

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That was totally The Burden. Had nothing to do with me. And at least DSLITR isn't just a stolen DC song! ;)

#33 rednow.red4ever

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 05:46 PM

How about the next jag off to fly a North Korea flag in the section gets pummeled?


I love how this is your reaction to someone bringing up a fair point that Chicago isn't an industrial city in Northern England. Rebel on bro! I'm bringing a Che flag to the next match!
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#34 jl_murtaugh

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 05:51 PM

We may not be an industrial city in Northern England, but the song seems pretty applicable to Chicago. More than North Korea or Ernesto Guevara, anyway. Plus the word Fire is in it.

We've got a good mix of songs. This works, people know it and a core larger than the original pushers of DSLITR or UIHM want it. What's the harm?

Long overdue is also a (simple) Polish song. But like any other thing, it's just going to take some individual will to make it happen. Internet bitching rarely accomplishes anything.

#35 rednow.red4ever

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 05:55 PM

It may not be an industrial city in Northern England, but it seems pretty applicable to Chicago. Plus the word Fire is in it.

We've got a good mix of songs. This works, people know it and a core larger than the original pushers of DSLITR or UIHM want it. What's the harm?

We also should have a (simple) Polish song. But like any other thing, it's just going to take some individual will to make it happen. Internet bitching rarely accomplishes anything.


I understand the association, I like it it myself- I'm just saying I'm not too fond of the pretentious talk about pummeling jag offs and booing Hot Time.
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Posted 12 August 2009 - 06:21 PM

I understand the association, I like it it myself- I'm just saying I'm not too fond of the pretentious talk about pummeling jag offs and booing Hot Time.

I guess celebrating North Korea has reached ironic status with you kids, like a fucking trucker hat, I'll assume nobody in your families lost their life there. It's a jag off move. An antagonistic move.

Hot time over the PA would be awful and embarrassing.
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Posted 12 August 2009 - 07:29 PM

I respect the point of people having lost there live in war got it. I would fly that flag not to disrespect somebodies loss but as a sign of solidarity for a country which stands up (you will disagree) for self determination again capitalist hygenomy. I will fly my red flags and not take the fedora off during the singing of that song. But ofcourse those are my beleifs. Now if somebody flies it just to antagonize well than they to should be prepared to deal with blow back. I just want to put my 2 red cents in.
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Posted 12 August 2009 - 07:42 PM

I say can the on screen bull, they can dictate to me what to sing when the deal with the isa honestly and in a manner which is timely...
Dirty old town is perfect for chicago. We are not what we used to be but there is still industry, and considering are history its appropriate. Plus my cousins the Pogues are one of the best bands ever!
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Posted 12 August 2009 - 08:09 PM

I would fly that flag not to disrespect somebodies loss but as a sign of solidarity for a country which stands up (you will disagree) for self determination again capitalist hygenomy.


Wait, did you just say that you want to be in solidarity for North Korea?

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 08:22 PM

Yes I wrote that I stand with North Korea...
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#41 rednow.red4ever

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 08:24 PM

I guess celebrating North Korea has reached ironic status with you kids, like a fucking trucker hat, I'll assume nobody in your families lost their life there. It's a jag off move. An antagonistic move.

Hot time over the PA would be awful and embarrassing.


Most things over the PA would probably come off as awkward, especially if it was limited to one song forced to be an anthem- as opposed to a more natural method.

I think the irony is definitely involved with the North Korea issue, but the flag would be the same with or without Kim, and I don't know what Joey's intentions are, but one could easily fly it in solidarity with the populous and not the leader.

I wouldn't be upset about someone flying the English flag even though they raped and pillaged Ireland for hundreds of years. Same goes for someone flying a Serbian flag, U.S. flag, Chinese flag, the list obviously goes on....I understand it may be more tense with North Korea being an on going issue, but once again, a flag should not solely represent a man.

Also, you always have this, "I've been through it all" attitude. I'm sorry we're not so awesome. Plus, you act all open-minded then u attack people with knowing intent- including me; when I didn't even wave the f*ckin flag- I was just opining.
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#42 rednow.red4ever

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 08:28 PM

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 08:30 PM

Most things over the PA would probably come off as awkward, especially if it was limited to one song forced to be an anthem- as opposed to a more natural method.

I think the irony is definitely involved with the North Korea issue, but the flag would be the same with or without Kim, and I don't know what Joey's intentions are, but one could easily fly it in solidarity with the populous and not the leader.


If someone brought a Nazi flag into the stadium and told people they were waving it was in solidarity with the German people (including the German Jews) and not with Hitler, do you think people might be confused?

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 08:31 PM

I think it looks pretty. Its got a red star, some nice stripes, and no beardy guys wearing funny hats.*

Of course, I sure understand how it could offend people, but the first reason should be, as it relates to this discussion, is that it has nothing to do with the Fire. Then again, that argument could be extended to pirate flags ( :) ) as those guys did more than their share of human rights violations between capers and singing drinking songs about rum and yoohoo. Congress even declared war on a fair amount of them.

Any symbol or song can be co opted if enough people believe in it. The question is why. Because we feel a special connection between it and the team? Because it sounds good? Both? We could sing Tainted Love for all I care. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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#45 rednow.red4ever

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 08:38 PM

If someone brought a Nazi flag into the stadium and told people they were waving it was in solidarity with the German people (including the German Jews) and not with Hitler, do you think people might be confused?


LOL. Someone always has to pull the Nazi card. The Nazis were a party, whose flag was created by Hitler and his henchmen. It only adopted as the National flag during his reign. The North Korean flag has nothing to do with Kim Jong Il other than he is the current leader of the country. I agree that think he's a dictatorial madman. But the flag is a basic communist flag meant to stand for the country's original socialist concept.

I sure hope people didn't associate the U.S. flag solely with GWB during his reign.

EDIT: As my own personal thoughts: I think DOT is logical song for us to sing and I only wave Fire/Chicago flags at Fire games; but I'm not going to berate others for bringing other flags.
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