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prior to that season where his production dropped off, he won the Golden Boot there, so who knows at this point. 


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I am not sure this is a true statement. The guy produced worse when Klimala did in the same League. But Klimala was 21 at the time, while he is 33, coming off major drop off. It would be expected to further drop off this year from the level already below Klimala. Not sure if this makes the team better. More like a visual that they tried.

This signing isn't ambitious at all, but Pekhart is better than Klimala. He brings a pedigree and toolset that we don't have on this roster. You are putting too much emphasis on that joke of a season that Legia had. He isn't the 22 goals in 25 games guy anymore either. It's more than likely somewhere in the middle.



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This signing isn't ambitious at all, but Pekhart is better than Klimala. He brings a pedigree and toolset that we don't have on this roster. You are putting too much emphasis on that joke of a season that Legia had. He isn't the 22 goals in 25 games guy anymore either. It's more than likely somewhere in the middle.

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All we need is for him integrate and round into form in sept. Like that Mexican DP in Philly who did nothing except score against us in the playoffs

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The other interesting aspect is what this would mean for us on set pieces, both offensively and defensively. If Struber trots out Sean Nealis, Long, Reyes and this dude up front - that is a hell of a skyline.



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The other interesting aspect is what this would mean for us on set pieces, both offensively and defensively. If Struber trots out Sean Nealis, Long, Reyes and this dude up front - that is a hell of a skyline.

Its practically the only way we score so yeah

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The wording in this tweet is confusing. Red Bull "was" pursuing him as in they stopped, or Gustavo just doesn't know if they still are?



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The wording in this tweet is confusing. Red Bull "was" pursuing him as in they stopped, or Gustavo just doesn't know if they still are?


His follow-up says yes: "As far as I know, the conversations are ongoing."

 

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Legia fans think there is a chance he goes back there. I understand he is a free agent, but tomorrow is already too late.

Anything later than that and its surely a 2023 move.

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Also possible that he could sign with Rakow Czestochowa. 


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This signing isn't ambitious at all, but Pekhart is better than Klimala. He brings a pedigree and toolset that we don't have on this roster. You are putting too much emphasis on that joke of a season that Legia had. He isn't the 22 goals in 25 games guy anymore either. It's more than likely somewhere in the middle.

Why is he better? Yes, I do put emphasis on last season, because it is important, particularly for an older player, as there is a high likelihood of drop off due to age. As far as joke of a season, he still played 2000 minutes, and scored only 9 goals. If you count all competitions, we are looking at 10 goals and 1 assist in 45 games and 2500+ minutes and now 33 years of age. Yes, we are desperate, but there has to be a way to bring in someone better with all the money RB just got for Adams.

 

I can see a point in getting an old descending player, if he was really great world class before, and even with the drop off still at good level. And even these guys often decline very quickly, even someone like Higuain. Tomas was never at that level, and he ALREADY showed sizable decline. Remember Shaun Wright Phillips? Exactly the same age when we got him, and showed decline previous year. Was a much better player previously than Tomas was.

 

To me, if this is the move for this year, Schneider didn't do his job.



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Why is he better? Yes, I do put emphasis on last season, because it is important, particularly for an older player, as there is a high likelihood of drop off due to age. As far as joke of a season, he still played 2000 minutes, and scored only 9 goals. If you count all competitions, we are looking at 10 goals and 1 assist in 45 games and 2500+ minutes and now 33 years of age. Yes, we are desperate, but there has to be a way to bring in someone better with all the money RB just got for Adams.

 

I can see a point in getting an old descending player, if he was really great world class before, and even with the drop off still at good level. And even these guys often decline very quickly, even someone like Higuain. Tomas was never at that level, and he ALREADY showed sizable decline. Remember Shaun Wright Phillips? Exactly the same age when we got him, and showed decline previous year. Was a much better player previously than Tomas was.

 

To me, if this is the move for this year, Schneider didn't do his job.

 

I already admitted that it is not ambitious and underwhelming. However, the fact of the matter is that he has displayed much better scoring instincts throughout his career than Klimala. His movement and composure in the 18 is levels above. He is a much stronger aerial threat which is important based on the amount of aimless long balls that our CB's are instructed to play. He can cause MLS defenders fits in these duels and actually knock a few balls onto Luqinhas and Morgan's feet - something that Klimala can't do. He also has a rapport with Luquinhas which may help get him up to speed quicker here and actually make an impact this season. The sample size on Klimala in the Ekstraklasa is small and it is hard to really gauge it as a comparison point (think he only had 20 starts or so). 

 

That Legia team was so uncharacteristically bad last season that I wouldn't put as much stock in it as you are. Luquinhas' numbers were down vs. prior season too. 



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Só they expect a 33 year old striker to run his ass off in the Red Bull system and score goals? Anyone else find this bizarre? Especially after so many others were passed over because they didnt fit the system.

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This signing isn't ambitious at all, but Pekhart is better than Klimala. He brings a pedigree and toolset that we don't have on this roster. You are putting too much emphasis on that joke of a season that Legia had. He isn't the 22 goals in 25 games guy anymore either. It's more than likely somewhere in the middle.

Klimala has no place to go but up.   This guy very likely can be done.  When strikers get old, they tend to fall off a cliff and never come back.   Look at BWP.   It's not like he's coming from the Prem or Serie A after an off season.  He's not Zlatan. 

I hope I'm wrong.  Maybe getting the band back together with Luqui will be magic.    Anyone want to bet on that?


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Why is he better? Yes, I do put emphasis on last season, because it is important, particularly for an older player, as there is a high likelihood of drop off due to age. As far as joke of a season, he still played 2000 minutes, and scored only 9 goals. If you count all competitions, we are looking at 10 goals and 1 assist in 45 games and 2500+ minutes and now 33 years of age. Yes, we are desperate, but there has to be a way to bring in someone better with all the money RB just got for Adams.
 
I can see a point in getting an old descending player, if he was really great world class before, and even with the drop off still at good level. And even these guys often decline very quickly, even someone like Higuain. Tomas was never at that level, and he ALREADY showed sizable decline. Remember Shaun Wright Phillips? Exactly the same age when we got him, and showed decline previous year. Was a much better player previously than Tomas was.
 
To me, if this is the move for this year, Schneider didn't do his job.


SWP in his prime was a speedy winger who relied on pace to blow by you. The years took his pace away. This polish striker was never fast, so it's unlikely that a few years will wash him up.

He's not the saving grace, but it is a low risk, low reward move. I'm all for it if the alternative is starting or playing Barlow down the stretch. Worst case he sucks and he comes off our roster next year.

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I already admitted that it is not ambitious and underwhelming. However, the fact of the matter is that he has displayed much better scoring instincts throughout his career than Klimala. His movement and composure in the 18 is levels above. He is a much stronger aerial threat which is important based on the amount of aimless long balls that our CB's are instructed to play. He can cause MLS defenders fits in these duels and actually knock a few balls onto Luqinhas and Morgan's feet - something that Klimala can't do. He also has a rapport with Luquinhas which may help get him up to speed quicker here and actually make an impact this season. The sample size on Klimala in the Ekstraklasa is small and it is hard to really gauge it as a comparison point (think he only had 20 starts or so). 

 

That Legia team was so uncharacteristically bad last season that I wouldn't put as much stock in it as you are. Luquinhas' numbers were down vs. prior season too. 

Legia team was bad because their defense went to shit (they conceded 100% more goals than previous season), but they ended up scoring only two fewer goals than previous year (down 4%). It does not explain his 60% drop off in scoring. And even worse if you consider other competitions as well, where he netted a single goal in 14 games. Finally - there are not too many good players who are still FAs at this stage. A better explanation is that he declined due to age. Even BWP also dropped off drastically around the same age. You have to admit there is a significant likelihood of that explanation, even if we are not 100% sure.






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