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#16 Cristobal Guillermo

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 12:38 PM

We're up 1-0 on a dubious penalty
and wherever you go in this league you can't escape the refereeing.

Who has better, or at least less horrible, refs: MLS or China Super League?

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 07:22 PM

Who has better, or at least less horrible, refs: MLS or China Super League?

MLS = inept, CSL= inept and possibly on the take. In China it leads to a vicous
cycle of MORE diving by players on the pitch, especially if they think or know
that the ref might be paid off in their favor. I want to think that the refs are
cleaner this year, but gambler-gangster intimidation may still be a factor outside
the stadium.
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Posted 23 April 2011 - 10:59 PM

MLS = inept, CSL= inept and possibly on the take. In China it leads to a vicous
cycle of MORE diving by players on the pitch, especially if they think or know
that the ref might be paid off in their favor. I want to think that the refs are
cleaner this year, but gambler-gangster intimidation may still be a factor outside
the stadium.

WTF!

under What I Hate About the CSL
2. Ignoring the fans

Since the CSL began, we’ve seen 2 clubs switch provinces (a 3rd was just missed by a season, as Liaoning moved to Beijing a year before the CSL began) and a number of clubs switch home venues due to renovations. If you’re a fan of European sports, this is something that simply doesn’t happen, though Americans are growingly used to relocations. This is a minor point when compared to the fact the schedule only gets released a month before the season, dates get added to the schedule 2 weeks or so before, and season tickets aren’t received until (in some cases) a day or two before the first match. The fans have zero power in China, tickets are so cheap that the owners aren’t earning any revenue from them (in fact, more often than not they’re losing revenue due to stadium rents), there are no overpriced concessions (often no concessions whatsoever), souveniers don’t really exist (and most people just buy the unlicensed stuff anyways), and the league lacks a tv contract (while teams have them, they produce very little revenue). All in all, owning a CSL team is basically a not-for-profit donation that rich businessmen are more or less forced into by the local government. Considering the circumstances, it’s no surprise the fans are beat down and ignored by the club’s they love and willingly spend money on.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 06:09 PM

Yesterday was China Super League's greatest moment to date, a signing, while slightly less glorious
than the G's signing of Beckham, puts the corrupt, diving league on the map. I'm happy I've already
gone through Shenhua's worst season last year (11th place!) as a ticket holder in the ultra section and
that I am not jumping on the bandwagon now. It was unexpected as the owner had actually withheld
funds from the team as they spun out of contention early this summer. Stay tuned if you care to.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 10:03 PM

Yesterday was China Super League's greatest moment to date, a signing, while slightly less glorious
than the G's signing of Beckham, puts the corrupt, diving league on the map. I'm happy I've already
gone through Shenhua's worst season last year (11th place!) as a ticket holder in the ultra section and
that I am not jumping on the bandwagon now. It was unexpected as the owner had actually withheld
funds from the team as they spun out of contention early this summer. Stay tuned if you care to.

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#21 shinpath

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 10:16 PM

Shanghai's shambles of a 2011 season, all pre-Anelka
Shenhua 2011 wrap-up
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 11:00 PM

Shanghai's shambles of a 2011 season, all pre-Anelka
Shenhua 2011 wrap-up

How many people go to the matches?
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 12:09 AM

How many people go to the matches?

Crowds of 15-20,000 at beginning of season fell to as few as 7,000 during
our slump mid-summer. All matches are on local broadcast TV live so you
have to really want to see one live and not so many fair-weather fans decided
we were worth it.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 03:28 AM

Crowds of 15-20,000 at beginning of season fell to as few as 7,000 during
our slump mid-summer. All matches are on local broadcast TV live so you
have to really want to see one live and not so many fair-weather fans decided
we were worth it.

Or were they disappeared?

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 03:42 AM

Or were they disappeared?

Dude! As I like to say, this isn't your GrandDad's Red China.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 10:22 PM

Given that my grandfather calls Kim jong il a "Chinaman" I imagine its exactly my grandfathers Red China
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 12:47 AM

Dude! As I like to say, this isn't your GrandDad's Red China.

Hahahaaaa. My granddads barely made it to Chiang Kai Shek.

Is it easy to find good pizza in in Shanghai?

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 04:17 AM

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 10:53 AM

Is it easy to find good pizza in in Shanghai?

Or churros for that matter...

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 11:22 AM

My gosh, this thread is great. How could I have missed it until now?

More, please.




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