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In an alternate reality where Marsch stays and Armas doesnt become our coach I dont believe this to be true at all.

He is a headache but talent wise I think it was a fair price.

 

Kaku's stats were unreal when Marsch was still here. Was easily in the lead for assists before Marsch bailed. 


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Kaku's stats were unreal when Marsch was still here. Was easily in the lead for assists before Marsch bailed. 

 

The difference is staggering. He had the same number of assists in like 3 months under Marsch than he did in almost 2 years under Armas.

 

Marsch really knew how to squeeze every ounce of quality out of his #10s. If you told anyone pre-2015 that Kljestan would be one of the most prolific and consistent attacking mids in MLS they'd just look at you funny.



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The difference is staggering. He had the same number of assists in like 3 months under Marsch than he did in almost 2 years under Armas.

 

Marsch really knew how to squeeze every ounce of quality out of his #10s. If you told anyone pre-2015 that Kljestan would be one of the most prolific and consistent attacking mids in MLS they'd just look at you funny.

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The difference is staggering. He had the same number of assists in like 3 months under Marsch than he did in almost 2 years under Armas.
 
Marsch really knew how to squeeze every ounce of quality out of his #10s. If you told anyone pre-2015 that Kljestan would be one of the most prolific and consistent attacking mids in MLS they'd just look at you funny.


This may speak to the effectiveness of our high press. We scored so many goals as a result of miscues by the other team in their defensive half. Many assists were the product of this, rather than traditional build-up play. High press was piss weak under Armas.

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This may speak to the effectiveness of our high press. We scored so many goals as a result of miscues by the other team in their defensive half. Many assists were the product of this, rather than traditional build-up play. High press was piss weak under Armas.


Wait, you're saying Armas was wrong in emphasizing possession?

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Wait, you're saying Armas was wrong in emphasizing possession?


i think Armas had a good idea to try to manage possession better.  But a good manager #1 job requirement is turning ideas into effective play and results. 

 

Armas couldn't teach the players how to use the ball well still and in the process blunted our biggest strength.



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In fairness, Armas justified dialing down the press and emphasizing possession by saying the team was starting to look burned out when he took over.

 

Maybe Marsch knew he was bouncing early and cared less about fatigue, in order to get results to secure his promotion? Yay RB ownership and these kinds of questions about what gets prioritized.


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Wait, you're saying Armas was wrong in emphasizing possession?


Not necessarily. Having a robust high press and being able to possess the ball are not mutually exclusive. But our pressour strength and identity as a teamwent to shit under Armas.

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Not necessarily. Having a robust high press and being able to possess the ball are not mutually exclusive. But our pressour strength and identity as a teamwent to shit under Armas.

and why the heck does this forum take out my emdashes! Makes my post read like garbage

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i think Armas had a good idea to try to manage possession better.  But a good manager #1 job requirement is turning ideas into effective play and results. 
 
Armas couldn't teach the players how to use the ball well still and in the process blunted our biggest strength.

Armas had an interesting idea but couldn't execute it. His issue was that he doubled down on an idea instead of playing the press consistently.

The thing with marsch is that he rolled deep into the bench to get fresh legs.

Armas didnt rotate his guys as much until last season. By then, it was done as a necessity since they looked gassed regardless of style.

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Within 2 weeks Carnell had the team doing exactly what Armas tried and failed to do for two years - building possession from deep within our own half and actually generating attacking chances at the end of it. Guys were moving decisively off the ball and moving it within 1-2 touches when they got it.

 

Armas wasn't wrong when he said the team would benefit from learning a "Plan B" style of play. But he seemed to think that simply slowing down, sitting on your heels, and passing horizontally would be enough to open up a professional defense. There was never any clear idea of how to actually progress the ball forward.



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The effectiveness of the press would have diminished significantly the day Adams left, regardless of who the coach was.  


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our press (our strength and identity as a team) went


Try parentheses ( )s.

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