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Montreal has scored 10 more open play goals than us with Kone, Mihailovic and Quioto as a front 3.  Morgan, Luqui Klimala isnt far from that and i think personally its better.  But there coach knows how to generate open play offense.  RSL has no DPs if I remember right and have the same open play goals than us.  Morgan and Luqui would start for them.  We dont have MLS Cup quality but we shouldn't be this bad in attack. 
 
Last stat we are 21st in MLS in big chance created per Fot Mob.

Yeah agree I think the offense is lost without high presss crating big turnovers and I dont see how coronel to blame on that goal nice shot by Torres

We have about a month to figure it out and then a few weeks to work with it while still ensuring we make the playoffs as the next 7 weeks is a dogfight

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It didn't hit Coronel, he reacted to a well placed point blank shot with his left foot and nearly saved it. It would have been a big time save if he did. He didn't, so no credit given, but to blame for not making this save is also inappropriate.
 
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1) He got a hand to it, it didn't hit his foot. Watch it on a slower playback speed, specifically the last replay.

2) You're saying that, between the ball leaving the shooter's foot and crossing the goalline, the ball made contact with Coronel. As in, the ball hit him.

He barely even moved, honestly. It was a well-placed shot, but one that gets saved way more often than it doesn't.

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It was a well-placed shot, but one that gets saved way more often than it doesn't.


Which is why Coronel was so frustrated with himself.

We are good enough to beat the best teams, and bad enough to lose to the worst teams. 


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1) He got a hand to it, it didn't hit his foot. Watch it on a slower playback speed, specifically the last replay.

2) You're saying that, between the ball leaving the shooter's foot and crossing the goalline, the ball made contact with Coronel. As in, the ball hit him.

He barely even moved, honestly. It was a well-placed shot, but one that gets saved way more often than it doesn't.

Just watched, it look like right below his hand, he moved his foot and therefore got a piece of the ball, but not enough. Yeah he barely moved, since it was a point blank shot and it's not easy to react. But he did react, just didn't do enough. It's not easy to make a shot from that position, which hard and accurate, but if that shot is made, it's very hard to save. I give credit to their shooter for great finish.

 

Jake, I have no idea whether Coronel was frustrated with himself because he thought the goal was on him, but I will take your word for it.



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Jake, I have no idea whether Coronel was frustrated with himself because he thought the goal was on him, but I will take your word for it.


My seat is behind the goal, maybe 10 yards from him.
That was the most upset I have ever seen him.

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https://www.mlssocce...tep-up-more-fro

 

 

nd honestly, the Red Bulls have been very good at that this season. They’re not playing peak Jesse Marsch-era soccer in terms of effectiveness, but it’s probably the closest this team has been since Marsch left four years ago, and for a while there I thought they were going to ride that to a top four or five spot in the standings.

But there is no Bradley Wright-Phillips on this team, and there is no Sacha Kljestan on this team, and I’m not even sure if there’s a Daniel Royer on this team. Those guys, and most of the other attackers that Marsch gave regular minutes to, mixed the vicious, league-changing high press with a bit of attacking magic and a lot of executing upon the fundamentals.

 

This team does not do that. This team does not even get to the near post:

 

Of course it’s part of the Red Bull game model. Whether you’re a maximalist or not this is the most fundamental run in soccer. When the ball gets wide like that, someone in the attack has to get to the near post. BWP, a center forward, scored 100 goals that way. Rodrigo, who is not a center forward, scored a BWP goal on the opener for Marsch’s Leeds side this weekend in the clip above.

 

Lewis Morgan, though, just stood there feeling the wind on his face. It’s like Gerhard Struber’s version of the Red Bulls are so committed to attacking downhill – Morgan has been excellent this year when running straight at goal in transition, and very good on restarts – that they have not figured out how to be dangerous in any other phase of play or build-up scenario.

 

“I think in some moments you need in the buildup a better understanding, you use the space,” Struber said afterward. “I think this is how we crash the first line, and this is always easier to come in the end in better follow actions.”

 

The point here, and in several other instances, is that there was no “crashing the first line,” to borrow Struber’s way of describing it. Klimala doesn’t reliably do it, and neither does Morgan, nor LuquinhasTom Barlow does, but his limitations in other areas make him much more of a bit player.

 

Struber has to figure out a way to address this because if the Red Bulls continue to skimp on the fundamental things, it’s hard to imagine them pulling out of this summer tailspin that’s threatening to become a death spiral.


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Good question for Struber, he's the one telling Klimala to make those runs. My guess is he expects the midfielders to crash the box hard whenever Klimala picks it up out wide. Remember when CCJ and Clark were scoring a bunch like that at the start of last year?


Doyle expanded on this being a large contributor to our attacking struggles lately.

https://www.mlssocce...tep-up-more-fro

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Doyle expanded on this being a large contributor to our attacking struggles lately.

https://www.mlssocce...tep-up-more-fro

Agree this is a basic run you teach u 12
Is it struber or Morgan - seems more Morgan

Also Luq has really slowed down in the last month or so after a hit start

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tailspin thats threatening to become a death spiral.


Sums it up succinctly.

We are good enough to beat the best teams, and bad enough to lose to the worst teams. 





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