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#1362238 Metro - Cincy Game Thread

Posted by McSoccer on Yesterday, 05:20 PM

I don't know how you think our best player last year, by far, Royer shouldn't start every match unless this new formation is the issue and if so why use it? Does he not fit the system/process anymore or did you just forget about him?

I'm not sure if we're going to be in the 4-2-2-2 or the more familiar 4-2-3-1 and what the former means for Royer.  I know he look really good as a second forward when we went with two last year,  but I guess I wouldn't be surprised if a combination of two of the three young forwards in White, Barlow, and MJ found some magic and kept Royer on the bench.  Now that I'm typing it, that scenario doesn't sound as plausible...

#1362206 Metro - Cincy Game Thread

Posted by McSoccer on Yesterday, 01:39 PM

Yeah but to me that was more rage about firing a long time member of this franchise and a guy who got us a shield and to the Eastern conference finals in his first two seasons.

I could be remembering wrong but I don't really remember people panicking about the team as much but I remember the line "WHYYY DID YOU FIRE MIKE PETKE?" lol

We still added players like Stache, Felipe, Kemar and Veron during that off season who were from outside the organization.

We have added Jensen and Egbo this year, that's it.

Kemar was a complete unknown.  Veron didn't come until August.  I think fans thought Sacha was was going to pretty good, but better than his #10 predecessor, Peguy?  And, we replaced Henry on the wing with a trialist in Grella.  With the exception of Veron, all those moves obviously worked out ok, but I think there was a decent amount of gloom heading into 2015.

#1362166 Hamlett is in so far over his head

Posted by McSoccer on Yesterday, 10:43 AM

This is a different situation he's walked into than at Wolves, where fans are completely happy to finish mid table and not win any trophies. Red Bull may not care about winning an MLS Cup but the fans do and Thelwell has to start delivering sooner than later.


You honestly believe this role is more pressure filled than Wolves? Keep up the delusion, man.  

Yea, it's hard take anyone that writes the top quote all that seriously.  Staying up in the Prem is incredibly difficult and unlike in the US, the British sports media is almost completely focused on soccer.  What happens in MLS if you don't make the playoffs?  The fans get mad.  In the Prem, if you get relegated you cost your club tens of millions of tv dollars, along with making a much larger fanbase angry, and have to deal with a media presence primarily focused on you.

#1362122 Hamlett is in so far over his head

Posted by McSoccer on 24 February 2020 - 08:12 PM

The thing is who are you gonna get? What are you going to give ? Like I see nobody on our roster that any team in MLS would want and I don't think or have heard of any players that would be worth it on the trading block around the league. The only thing I see is using mls funny money and a Mikey mouse draft pick to get a back up LB just in case we get the injury bug but even then I feel that's more of Hamlet's job since he knows the league. (Even though some of us will agree maybe he doesn't)

Look I'm disappointed as hell as anybody the way this off season was handled and the lack of moves we made but to blame a guy who hasn't even went to work yet is a little too much. Give him a couple months. See what he can do.

I think this is part of the issue with Armas. Marsch and Curtis were able to identify that Felipe was better than Eric Alexander, etc. Hamlett hasnt been able to make that type of trade within MLS, the kind that looks like it helps both teams, but more so yours.

#1362104 Hamlett is in so far over his head

Posted by McSoccer on 24 February 2020 - 02:48 PM

the club has slacked this month and needs to be held accountable.

I think just about everyone would agree with this.

#1362091 Hamlett is in so far over his head

Posted by McSoccer on 24 February 2020 - 11:33 AM

I would have him looking to make deals this window, including moves from within MLS. Just because Thelwell was announced Feb. 3 doesn't mean the team should be given a free pass for not doing anything the past three weeks.

Who have Hamlett and the scouting department been secretly looking at the past few months? Did Thelwell tell them to stand down on everything until the summer? Why should the club now have to wait to make moves? They need to make the moves now.

Yea, when you think back at how Curtis and Marsch turned Oyongo into Felipe and the allocation spot that allowed us to sign Sacha, it puts the work, or lack of, of Hamlett into perspective.  In 2015, we were able to make (successful) moves that worked in the confines of the budget given to RBNY by RB Global.

#1362087 Hamlett is in so far over his head

Posted by McSoccer on 24 February 2020 - 11:01 AM

Yes.  Were you at his personal appearance in Midland Park? Quite a turnout, for a cast- off.
Another captain and fan favorite kicked to the curb.

Im talking strictly from a sporting standpoint. Sure, hes a club legend and just an overall top class human being, but that doesnt mean moving on from him was wrong.

Also, they didnt kick him to the curb. I thought Luis has been pretty open about the club releasing him, when they didnt have to, so that he could sign with who he wanted to and not just to the team RB could get the most from.

#1362051 Some people think the 2017 Open Cup run was lucky

Posted by McSoccer on 23 February 2020 - 08:00 PM

Oh, come on, that's revisionist history. He started all backups the previous weekend vs Philly:
Lineup: Robles, Zizzo, Perrinelle, Murillo, Lade, Muyl, Martins, Davis, Keita, Etienne, Veron. Subs: Kljestan, Wright-Phillips, Adams.
Compare that to the final lineup:
Lineup: Meara, Lawrence, Long, Escobar, Murillo, Adams, Martins, Davis, Kljestan, Muyl, Wright-Phillips. Subs: Zizzo, Veron, Keita.
They went all out to win that final.

Yea, the only complaint I remember having with Marsch that game was that he stayed with his top choice lineup for too long.

#1361941 Some people think the 2017 Open Cup run was lucky

Posted by McSoccer on 21 February 2020 - 07:26 AM

I was at every game as well.  
More seriously than other years perhaps, but that is not saying much.  Ultimately progressed on luck and a few timely subs. I felt that we were going to loose in each game.
A rebound against NYC saved us from PKs.
We went to PKs against PU, yet prevailed.
Red card vs. NE provided the edge for BWP.
Fortuitous pounce by Veron, genius by BWP at FCC.
Then, we ran into a club that really takes it seriously.

You can take something serious AND be lucky.

#1361856 Red Bulls need more diversity?

Posted by McSoccer on 20 February 2020 - 08:59 AM

this sort of tweet doesn't help ; )



Ha! I thought the same thing when I saw that...

#1361607 Predictions for 2020

Posted by McSoccer on 17 February 2020 - 02:47 PM

Only one of the seven media figures on MLS' website has RBNY making the playoffs. That person predicted them to finish 7th.

I agree our playoff chances look grim, but, outside of Doyle, the MLS guys are garbage.

#1361598 "There is no Offseason" 2020 Thread

Posted by McSoccer on 17 February 2020 - 11:07 AM

During the early stages of the offseason even the biggest pollyannas and apologists were saying this was an important offseason for the direction of the club.

Guess its just acceptance and general apathy at this point that we arent hearing more noise about another Hamlett failure. Even previous non shill reporters like Dyer are defending this continued nonsense.

I dont think any one really thinks iHamlett is doing a good job, but most of the issues with the squad come from ownership not investing in the club the way Atlantas, Galaxys, LAFCs, etc. does.

#1361563 Murillo sold to Belgium

Posted by McSoccer on 16 February 2020 - 09:20 AM

This highlights incompetence of RB FO and also coaching. Yes, Murillo had a tough year, where he made some boneheaded mistakes, but still contributed a lot, and was the best RB on the team. Year before he was an all star and still very young. Played well for his NT team. Mistakes were correctable too and talent undeniable. So, what do we do? Trade the youngster away after one sub-par season. He immediately wins starting spot on a team way better than RB. Can't say I am surprised.

No. His subpar season was a result of him checking out.  He checked out because he wanted to go to Europe and we didnt let him. Its a danger when you dont sell players that want to be somewhere else. We saw it with Kaku the first half of last season too.

He was done being a good player for us. Doesnt mean he was done being a good player.

Also, there was a lot of chatter about him being bad in the locker room.

#1361467 Armas Press Conference 2/13

Posted by McSoccer on 14 February 2020 - 10:06 AM

Trying to fool players. Thats even worse. Cant get guys to play for you if your trying to fool them.

His job is to put players in best position to win. Because hes a bad coach he is incapable of doing that.


I just meant he's trying to instill confidence in them, by saying they're better than they probably are.  I didn't mean he's being devious.  We do agree that he's probably not the right guy to put them in the best position to win.

#1361461 Armas Press Conference 2/13

Posted by McSoccer on 14 February 2020 - 09:24 AM

It is coach speak and you're right, it doesn't matter.

But I get the sense the fan base wants someone to own up to the current state of the roster and explain why it is what it is right now at this point in the offseason. No one in the front office seems to be taking note of that.

One of these two scenarios is happening behind the scenes:

1) Red Bull has given the front office plenty of cash to spend, but Hamlett and the scouts are too stupid to identify targets and/or get deals across the finish line.

2) Red Bull has not given the front office cash to spend and Hamlett/Armas are too scared to speak up and complain to get more of what they need.

Someone needs to show some accountability. Doing that instead of speaking about the mystery "process" would go a long way I would think.

Would Armas or Hamlett still have a job if either of them did what you suggested?  That's not to say Armas is getting enough out of what he has or that Hamlett is doing a good job with the resources he is given.  I don't think either deserve a passing grade. 


Both guys are only in their current positions because Marsch put them there before he left.  I can't see Armas or Hamlett ever getting another MLS job head coaching or running a team.  This is it for them. We really can't expect them to get up there and say the owners suck and aren't providing RBNY with the funds needed to sign the players needed to compete for MLS Cup.