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Bad sign: Gloster got called up to the big USYNT summit that starts January 2.  He's listed as "Unattached."

 

https://www.ussoccer...-in-single-camp

https://twitter.com/...255935729987584

 

Gloster's gone.  MLS has to figure something out so teams stop losing their top-tier youth players.



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https://twitter.com/...255935729987584
 
Gloster's gone.  MLS has to figure something out so teams stop losing their top-tier youth players.


Sometimes kids r getting bad advice.

It's really hard if your a foreign talent to develop abroad. Foreign slots are limited and euro teams import dozens each year.

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MLS has to figure something out so teams stop losing their top-tier youth players.


Pay them?

We are good enough to beat the best teams, and bad enough to lose to the worst teams. 


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With everyone freaking out in the US over us missing the world cup, I think every kid is going to try to figure out a way to go overseas.  It sucks... And it's the worst part about us not qualifying.  

 

Instead of just chalking it up as a fluke with shitty coaching and not having good CB options, stupid people want to overhaul the thinking.  It's wrong and only going to do more damage. 



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With everyone freaking out in the US over us missing the world cup, I think every kid is going to try to figure out a way to go overseas.  It sucks... And it's the worst part about us not qualifying.  

 

Instead of just chalking it up as a fluke with shitty coaching and not having good CB options, stupid people want to overhaul the thinking.  It's wrong and only going to do more damage. 

Young guys challenging themselves abroad is hardly a bad thing for the USMNT. Not everyone will be Pulisic, obviously, but that's how you get to the next level if you're good enough. With the new format, we'll make 20 out of the next 20 World Cups, and promptly lose at the last 16 in all 20, if people never strive to be better than MLS.

 

Top young talent leaving early is not great for MLS, admittedly.



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Sometimes kids r getting bad advice.

It's really hard if your a foreign talent to develop abroad. Foreign slots are limited and euro teams import dozens each year.

Or signed with an agent similar to that of Simonian...

 

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He was on trial at Schalke earlier.

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He was on trial at Schalke earlier.

Schalke is basically just a deutschland based US u-20 team at this point



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Sometimes you can't do anything about a kid wanting to leave to go to Europe as that's probably their dream. You aren't gonna get every kid but there's no doubt MLS and the academies can do more to foster the development of these kids here. 



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Sometimes you can't do anything about a kid wanting to leave to go to Europe as that's probably their dream. You aren't gonna get every kid but there's no doubt MLS and the academies can do more to foster the development of these kids here. 

An RB have done more for HG players than anyone.    We've had games with Lade, Adams, Davis, and Etienne all on the field at once.   Can't keep 'em all.


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Gloster to Hannover.

 

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I like that we keep producing kids of sufficient quality that they can sign abroad, even if it means that occasionally we lose them.  Seeing guys like Miazga to go Chelsea kinda stinks when they leave after just a short time, but I think it shows the next Miazga that if you do well here, you can go places.  I feel like we have one of the best academies in MLS, and this is pain of losing 1 out of every 5 really good players is a by product of that.

 

As much as I like the idea of kids challenging themselves at the highest level in Europe, I think it is a less than 50-50 chance that it'll work out, and over time I hope kids & parents will figure that out.  Even pretty good players like Jozy can fail to ever find a good fit & end up not playing.  Olosunde might have been better off getting regular playing time in MLS for a few years, but then again it's hard to turn down a ManUtd just in case it does really work out. (god knows we kept hearing 'Ex-ManUtd prospect Kenny Cooper' for ages). 

 

Pulisic worked out really well going to Europe, but you have recognize he's an edge case- most players aren't going to do quite so well. It'll be interesting to see what happens to Josh Sargent.  I like that Tyler Adams was an academy kid that played academy, then USL, then MLS, and is now a lock starter at 18. (Hopefully we can keep him until he's 20 and he can go to Europe then, though I feel like we'll lose him this calendar year.)  I feel like over time, the sample size of players going over and doing well or poorly will grow to the point that it'll give players a better idea of how realistic their chances are. It's too bad we didn't get to see him here first, but I wish Gloster all the best.  We now have the financial resources to sign kids like Casseres as well, and to better pay kids like Gloster to stay if there are on the fence. At least there's an internal & external pipeline to draw first team players from; teams like New England don't have this problem, and it's a serious disadvantage.  So, I can't complain too loudly about the times it bites us for being successful. 


 





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