#1
Posted 16 June 2009 - 11:19 AM
Red Bull have started a new club in Leipzig, called RB Leipzig (RB = Rasenballsport, they are not allowed to call it Red Bull Leipzig) Lok Leipzig and Sachsen Leipzig were hoping to close the deal, but both clubs are in chaos so Red Bull decided to cooperate with SSV Markranstädt. Red Bull are going to invest an estimated 100 million Euros in the next decade.
#2
Posted 16 June 2009 - 11:33 AM
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#3
Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:16 PM
#4
Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:27 PM
Soy Del Metrooooo, Del Metro soy yoooooooo!
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#5
Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:30 PM
If only Red Bull did the same thing in Austria (start a new club and work its way up the league ranks), everybody would've been happy. But No, they had to buy the existing team with a ton of history and alienate a large segment of fans. Shows what mental midgets are in the RB PR department. In a country like Austria, they probably could've gotten the new team into the top flight within 5 years.
#6
Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:56 PM
Well to be honest they couldve done that here too. There really wasnt anything to stop them from buying the NY2 slot and actually playing in NY somewhere. But the assholes that they are theyd much rather piss people off.Good for the German FA to stand up to them and not let them pull their usual nonsense.
If only Red Bull did the same thing in Austria (start a new club and work its way up the league ranks), everybody would've been happy. But No, they had to buy the existing team with a ton of history and alienate a large segment of fans. Shows what mental midgets are in the RB PR department. In a country like Austria, they probably could've gotten the new team into the top flight within 5 years.
Soy Del Metrooooo, Del Metro soy yoooooooo!
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#7
Posted 16 June 2009 - 01:19 PM
Well to be honest they couldve done that here too. There really wasnt anything to stop them from buying the NY2 slot and actually playing in NY somewhere. But the assholes that they are theyd much rather piss people off.
Yeah all 12 of them!
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#8
Posted 16 June 2009 - 02:30 PM
you know what i'm thinking, i'm guessing the owner or one of the owners bought that team in austria because it was the team that he grew up hating (let's say i being a barcelona fan, bought real madrid and destroyed its identity and everything) so the team was bought and destroyed of all its history.Good for the German FA to stand up to them and not let them pull their usual nonsense.
If only Red Bull did the same thing in Austria (start a new club and work its way up the league ranks), everybody would've been happy. But No, they had to buy the existing team with a ton of history and alienate a large segment of fans. Shows what mental midgets are in the RB PR department. In a country like Austria, they probably could've gotten the new team into the top flight within 5 years.
not bad- imagine if we could do that with DC haha
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#9
Posted 16 June 2009 - 02:37 PM
Well to be honest they couldve done that here too. There really wasnt anything to stop them from buying the NY2 slot and actually playing in NY somewhere. But the assholes that they are theyd much rather piss people off.
True, but Metro didn't have stable ownership at the time, so the team was ripe for the picking. MLS really couldn't stand in their way. I'm not as well-versed in the Salzburg situation, but the impression I got was that it was a far more hostile takeover.
In retrospect, Red Bull probably would've been better off buying an expansion team. It's easier to start from scratch than to try to turn a cursed franchise into a 'Superclub.'
#10
Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:18 PM
Disagree and agree....True, but Metro didn't have stable ownership at the time, so the team was ripe for the picking. MLS really couldn't stand in their way. I'm not as well-versed in the Salzburg situation, but the impression I got was that it was a far more hostile takeover.
In retrospect, Red Bull probably would've been better off buying an expansion team. It's easier to start from scratch than to try to turn a cursed franchise into a 'Superclub.'
I disagree that Metro didn't have stable ownership. I think AEG is pretty stable in my book. They basically kept this League alive for years owning half the League's teams at one point. Were they the ideal owners for the team? I don't know....probably not, but I did (for some reason) feel like the team was in better hands then.
I agree with you 100% that Red Bull. in retroespect, would have been better off buying an expansion team. They have alienated a lot of supporters that were hard core Metro fans. Now they have a major up-hill battle on their hands to gain fans.....and more importantly to stop losing them.
What's left after the novelty of the new stadium has worn off??
#11
Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:41 PM
I agree with you 100% that Red Bull. in retroespect, would have been better off buying an expansion team. They have alienated a lot of supporters that were hard core Metro fans.
They also would have had a "New York" branded branch (which is the whole point) that was actually in New York.
#12
Posted 16 June 2009 - 05:11 PM
Well to be honest they couldve done that here too. There really wasnt anything to stop them from buying the NY2 slot and actually playing in NY somewhere. But the assholes that they are theyd much rather piss people off.
Where would they have played? Wasn't the stadium the selling point?
#13
Posted 16 June 2009 - 05:27 PM
Good for the German FA to stand up to them and not let them pull their usual nonsense.
If only Red Bull did the same thing in Austria (start a new club and work its way up the league ranks), everybody would've been happy. But No, they had to buy the existing team with a ton of history and alienate a large segment of fans. Shows what mental midgets are in the RB PR department. In a country like Austria, they probably could've gotten the new team into the top flight within 5 years.
Hell, if only MLS HQ had more authority for that matter, they were against the Red Bull branding (not the ownership) fromt he jump. As i recall it was AEG (the dominate figure on the BoG at that time) that pretty much forced the sale through and the consent to rebrad because they very much were looking to unload that franchise after suffering massive losses operating them.
#14
Posted 16 June 2009 - 05:48 PM
Disagree and agree....
I disagree that Metro didn't have stable ownership. I think AEG is pretty stable in my book. They basically kept this League alive for years owning half the League's teams at one point. Were they the ideal owners for the team? I don't know....probably not, but I did (for some reason) feel like the team was in better hands then.
I agree with you 100% that Red Bull. in retroespect, would have been better off buying an expansion team. They have alienated a lot of supporters that were hard core Metro fans. Now they have a major up-hill battle on their hands to gain fans.....and more importantly to stop losing them.
What's left after the novelty of the new stadium has worn off??
AEG was unstable because frankly, they did not want to own the team. They were basically caretakers of the franchise for the good of the league (and a hope to make a slight profit on the resale). When Red Bull came along, MLS wasn't thrilled, and I'm sure would have preferred other owners, but AEG wanted to sell, so MLS let them sell. Yes AEG was financially stable, but a stable ownership situation would have been an owner that wasn't looking to offload the team first chance they got.
As for the expansion team, Red Bull would have been better off with a brand new team, and a year or two lead-up to build up their brand. Instead they bought Metro a few months before the season, and had to try to both eliminate the negative stigma of Metro and build their own brand very quickly.
I agree that the only reason that makes sense is that the legwork was already done for the Harrison stadium, so it made sense to latch onto that bid. The only weird thing is that initially, I think Red Bull was dillusional enough to think the team was going to fill Giants Stadium like a Cosmos 2.0, so who knows.
#15
Posted 16 June 2009 - 06:07 PM
Ow! That hurt!Yeah all 12 of them!
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