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Article stating that Miazga turned down a contract extension with the Red Bulls...

 

http://sports.yahoo....tons&soc_trk=tw



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Article stating that Miazga turned down a contract extension with the Red Bulls...

 

http://sports.yahoo....tons&soc_trk=tw

That's different than what I understood from the last round of Miazga news - I thought we already had him locked in for 2016, and exercised an option for 2017.   This sucks.    Keep him for the year, or get nothing for him... ouch.


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That's different than what I understood from the last round of Miazga news - I thought we already had him locked in for 2016, and exercised an option for 2017.   This sucks.    Keep him for the year, or get nothing for him... ouch.

I don't understand why he would turn it down. He is staying this year no matter what so he may as well earn X more than his current contract. If he has a productive year in 2016 teams will still want to sign him, he may as well take the extra cash this year and move off to Europe next year as planned. 



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I don't understand why he would turn it down. He is staying this year no matter what so he may as well earn X more than his current contract. If he has a productive year in 2016 teams will still want to sign him, he may as well take the extra cash this year and move off to Europe next year as planned. 

Because the higher pay we offered was dependent on him signing a contract extension, keeping him from going to Europe next year (or at least keeping him from going unless we agree to sell him).


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I don't understand why he would turn it down. He is staying this year no matter what so he may as well earn X more than his current contract. If he has a productive year in 2016 teams will still want to sign him, he may as well take the extra cash this year and move off to Europe next year as planned. 

Umm, it's always better to be a free agent, both for more money and a choice of destination. If he's under contract, teams need to pay a fee, and often only the highest bidder's offer would be accepted by MLS/RB. If he's a free agent, teams just get him for 0 and can give him some/a lot of what would have been a transfer fee as a signing fee or a higher salary, and he can pick a destination himself from multiple offers.



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Because the higher pay we offered was dependent on him signing a contract extension, keeping him from going to Europe next year (or at least keeping him from going unless we agree to sell him).

Right I get that, I just don't think RB would hold him hostage, I think they would take the money and run...to the bank.  



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That's different than what I understood from the last round of Miazga news - I thought we already had him locked in for 2016, and exercised an option for 2017.   This sucks.    Keep him for the year, or get nothing for him... ouch.

Yeah, the EOS article said 2017 was a club option (which would obviously be picked up, duh). This is bad news.



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Umm, it's always better to be a free agent, both for more money and a choice of destination. If he's under contract, teams need to pay a fee, and often only the highest bidder's offer would be accepted by MLS/RB. If he's a free agent, teams just get him for 0 and can give him some/a lot of what would have been a transfer fee as a signing fee or a higher salary, and he can pick a destination himself from multiple offers.

I don't think teams in Europe will shy away from paying a fee for Miazga. 



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Right I get that, I just don't think RB would hold him hostage, I think they would take the money and run...to the bank.  

Still, if you are Miazga, why take that chance?  Why give RB the  control?  To get an extra hundred thousand this year?    That will be chump change compared to what he will get over there.


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Clearly, Miazga does not want to stay, so let's get as much money for him as we can, while we can.
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Clearly, Miazga does not want to stay, so let's get as much money for him as we can, while we can.

...and get his replacement in before the start of camp


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I can't blame someone for wanting to prove himself in higher level leagues.  You just hope he has the right advisers and is willing to give everything that it will take to bust into a starting lineup overseas.  



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I don't think teams in Europe will shy away from paying a fee for Miazga. 

Doesn't really matter for the European teams although they will save some money. It definitely matters for Matt.

 

Let's say his transfer fee ends up being $5M, which is a conservative estimate imo. Tim Ream's was 2.5M pounds, and Matt will be better and still much younger next year, not to mention the fee inflation in the years since.

 

If Matt's under contract, he gets a higher salary at RB for 1 year (1M tops as a DP? probably less), Euro team pays 5M, RB receives 5M.

If Matt's a free agent, he gets 2.5M signing-on fee, Euro team pays 2.5M to Matt (saving 2.5M in the process), RB gets 0.

 

Numbers out of my ass, obviously. But If you're Matt, there's a clear decision if you care about money and want to play in Europe in 1 year or sooner, both  pretty normal aspirations.

 

And again, he could entertain multiple offers, while RB/MLS could conceivably accept a single offer at, e.g. 5.1M and restrict him to going to that one team.



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Doesn't really matter for the European teams although they will save some money. It definitely matters for Matt.

 

Let's say his transfer fee ends up being $5M, which is a conservative estimate imo. Tim Ream's was 2.5M pounds, and Matt will be better and still much younger next year, not to mention the fee inflation in the years since.

 

If Matt's under contract, he gets a higher salary at RB for 1 year (1M tops as a DP? probably less), Euro team pays 5M, RB receives 5M.

If Matt's a free agent, he gets 2.5M signing-on fee, Euro team pays 2.5M to Matt (saving 2.5M in the process), RB gets 0.

 

Numbers out of my ass, obviously. But If you're Matt, there's a clear decision if you care about money and want to play in Europe in 1 year or sooner, both  pretty normal aspirations.

 

And again, he could entertain multiple offers, while RB/MLS could conceivably accept a single offer at, e.g. 5.1M and restrict him to going to that one team.

Red Bull doesn't receive $5M.  The league takes most of it, and what we get back has restrictions on how it can be spent.    But the logic is the same.  


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