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FC Dallas got Dom Dwyer from Toronto for 50k. That's super cheap. Is he good anymore? Seems like he'd be a decent backup striker. Better option that Barlow at least.

 

https://twitter.com/...609049616031748

 

edit - I didn't see 3rd overall pick in the draft too



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Dwyers been a combination of injury prone and bad for a few years now, he's barely played since 2019. It's a gamble that he'll refind any form, although Dallas didn't exactly bet much. Dwyer's nearly on the league minimum salary right now which was surprising. Probably worthwhile for most teams, probably not for us with how we play.



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Barlow had more goals in fewer starts last season plus he blows Dwyer out of the water in terms of pressing and defensive actions. There's a reason Toronto literally had to pay someone to take him. He sucks now. Injuries have ruined him unfortunately.

 

Dallas doesn't even want Dwyer. they're buying him out. At this stage of he's career he's at best a player you bring in on trial. 



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Barlow had more goals in fewer starts last season plus he blows Dwyer out of the water in terms of pressing and defensive actions. There's a reason Toronto literally had to pay someone to take him. He sucks now. Injuries have ruined him unfortunately.
 
Dallas doesn't even want Dwyer. they're buying him out. At this stage of he's career he's at best a player you bring in on trial. 


Just because barlow had more goals than a guy that was injured does not make him a better player. Barlow is what he is. He is a very good usl player but a below avg MLS player.

The beautiful thing about dwyer getting bought out is that he can now be signed for a very cheap contract. This would be a Low risk/high reward gamble. I rather take that risk then keep a guy who is not at the MLS level.



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Just because barlow had more goals than a guy that was injured does not make him a better player. Barlow is what he is. He is a very good usl player but a below avg MLS player.

The beautiful thing about dwyer getting bought out is that he can now be signed for a very cheap contract. This would be a Low risk/high reward gamble. I rather take that risk then keep a guy who is not at the MLS level.
 

What things does Dom Dwyer do better than Barlow in 2022?



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Neither should be on the roster this season. The striker pool should be:

 

1. Klimala

2. Guy who can compete with, but also complement Klimala. Preferably a target guy (what they were going for with Fabio, but he's not good enough at hold-up). 

3. Upgrade to Barlow

4. Sowe



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What things does Dom Dwyer do better than Barlow in 2022?


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The beautiful thing about dwyer getting bought out is that he can now be signed for a very cheap contract. This would be a Low risk/high reward gamble. I rather take that risk then keep a guy who is not at the MLS level.


Dwyer is not at MLS level either and hasn't been for years. He hasn't scored a goal since September 2019.

He is genuinely worse than Barlow.

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FC Dallas got Dom Dwyer from Toronto for 50k. That's super cheap. Is he good anymore? Seems like he'd be a decent backup striker. Better option that Barlow at least.

 

https://twitter.com/...609049616031748

 

edit - I didn't see 3rd overall pick in the draft too

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Dom is done.  He is far from the SKC Dwyer.  
Only reason to bring him is according to wikipedia he is from  Cuckfield, United Kingdom

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What things does Dom Dwyer do better than Barlow in 2022?


Dwyer didnt score alot because he was hurt. What was Barlow's excuse for having terrible stats in 2022?

The question to ask is not who had the best stats last year but whether our coaching staff is good enough to get the best version of Dwyer. The best version of dwyer has proven to be a very good MLS forward.

There have been countless examples where players where able to regain their mvp form with the right coaching staff. Eddie johnson and CJ sapong are good examples.

If we dont go after dwyer then agudelo is worth a look to be option number 3.

What is the worst that could happen? An unproductive forward occupying a roster spot? For that, We have barlow.





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Dwyer is not at MLS level either and hasn't been for years. He hasn't scored a goal since September 2019.

He is genuinely worse than Barlow.



Your missing the point. Dwyer has a higher ceiling than barlow. To say he doesn't, is being naive. He has already proven to be the better forward in his career.



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Dwyer didnt score alot because he was hurt. What was Barlow's excuse for having terrible stats in 2022?

The question to ask is not who had the best stats last year but whether our coaching staff is good enough to get the best version of Dwyer. The best version of dwyer has proven to be a very good MLS forward.

There have been countless examples where players where able to regain their mvp form with the right coaching staff. Eddie johnson and CJ sapong are good examples.

If we dont go after dwyer then agudelo is worth a look to be option number 3.

What is the worst that could happen? An unproductive forward occupying a roster spot? For that, We have barlow.


 

What does being hurt have to do with anything in regards to their scoring numbers? They played the same number of minutes and Dwyer had more starts. 

 

The best version of Dwyer was multiple leg surgeries ago. He can't run anymore. It was a big enough problem that he couldn't do shit in Toronto and FC Dallas didn't want him for free. you think that gets fixed in a pressing system? Eddie Johnson had a heart problem and idk what injuries you're talking about with Sapong. It's fundamentally different than Dwyer, whose legs have undergone multiple major surgeries and are now held together by scotch tape.

 

The worst that can happen is that we add a player who can't score for shit like Barlow but also sucks at defending and pressing. Barlow's problem was that we need goals and he couldn't provide shit offensively. He's a perfectly decent option for when we need fresh legs to kill clock for 10-15 minutes. 

 

Agudelo also sucks. I'm all for replacing Barlow but there are a million players out there who don't suck. Let's go for them rather than guys who suck but have names you recogize from 2017. 



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Your missing the point. Dwyer has a higher ceiling than barlow. To say he doesn't, is being naive. He has already proven to be the better forward in his career.


He was a better forward. He isn't now. He won't be in the future.

Barlow sucks, Dwyer is worse. Wasting a roster spot on either is a mistake.

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Your missing the point. Dwyer has a higher ceiling than barlow. To say he doesn't, is being naive. He has already proven to be the better forward in his career.

Dwyer HAD a higher ceiling than Barlow. Dwyers house has collapsed, theres no ceiling anymore. Did you also want to sign Mullins and put Jozy back on the Nats?

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Dwyer is a locker room nightmare and the guy hasn't been relevant for years.
I'd love to have Agudelo back, but his best days are also behind him.
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