"[New York] inquired about Marmol," Hamlett said of a recent conversation with the Red Bulls. "We have no interest in giving him up. He's a guy we want on this team."
Fire sign Lider Marmol
Started by dabull, Mar 01 2008 06:50 PM
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 09:37 PM
http://blogs.chicago...tt-fire-ha.html
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Posted 09 April 2008 - 10:26 PM
We have priority on him until the end of the 2008 season (according to the deputy commish of MLS), regardless of who he signs with, cuz he signs with MLS at the end of the day. JCO's whining the about rules notwithstanding. Comes down to brass tacks, he's gonna sign with whoever will let him play for pay. In other words, THANKS FOR KEEPING OUR BOY IN SHAPE ON YOUR TEAM'S DIME, JUANITA!!So...two weeks ago this was about to get settled?
Isn't there some sort of deadline where if the Fire don't sign him, RBNJ will have the option to? Judging from the hell that we've been getting over filing our claim first, I imagine if that deadline passes he'll be snatched up quickly by Jersey.
Does anybody know if/when this deadline is?
Unfortunately, every week NY keeps screwing around with him and delaying the inevitable is time we could have used getting him back into training and playing with us. What JCO doesn't understand, however, is that the league cannot force us to give priority to him for Conde, but they sure as hell can force him to give us our due with Marmol, or JCO doesn't get squat.He keeps screwing around with our guys, and he might just find out what tampering charges lead to.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 03:26 PM
http://www.soccerbyi...mment-110221942
Ironic how Douchebag Ives's won't let it go.
His pageviews were probably down for the week. This dead horse still has some life it it, apparently.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 04:05 PM
Seriously, how much ad revenue does that fat fuck need? I honestly hate how much he goads both sides to drag this out.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 04:13 PM
Actually, time is about to expire for NY, and Ives is trying to either force us to deal Marmol (and Conde, presumably) to NY by giving us bad rep while giving NY good rep, and/or force the league to intervene. Money through adspace?? Well, I'm sure that that route is already being taken care of, if you know what I mean.Seriously, how much ad revenue does that fat fuck need? I honestly hate how much he goads both sides to drag this out.
What next, IvySoccerSeed, new dirt over Bradley? Guppy? Denis? ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 05:16 PM
I think I lost it when that DC United fan dissed Chicago, the city. 
"Dave Checketts and SCP Worldwide partners Dean Howes, Kenneth Munoz, Michael McCarthy and Chris Bevilacqua, chose Real Salt Lake for the team's name because they desired to associate the team with a successful soccer club, and "Fire" was already taken."
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 06:47 PM
This "new revelation" from Ives that seems to be just his rehash of other articles on Hauptman conveniently overlooks the shenanigans involving Conde and Marmol.
Look, any way you slice it, a coach reneging on his contract less than four months after signing it is not the best way to advance your career and make a name for yourself in sport. Maybe we didn't play clean pool in getting JCO from Millionarios, who knows (and Ives sure as hell doesn't) but when you move from one club to another in the same league, there are going to be repercussions.
We've moved on from JCO anyhow. The unwillingness to do business with RBNY has more to do with Conde and Marmol than anything; not to mention the fact they are in our own division. Peter Wilt and Bob Bradley said on a number of occasions how unwilling they were to do business with New York long before this past offseason.
Look, any way you slice it, a coach reneging on his contract less than four months after signing it is not the best way to advance your career and make a name for yourself in sport. Maybe we didn't play clean pool in getting JCO from Millionarios, who knows (and Ives sure as hell doesn't) but when you move from one club to another in the same league, there are going to be repercussions.
We've moved on from JCO anyhow. The unwillingness to do business with RBNY has more to do with Conde and Marmol than anything; not to mention the fact they are in our own division. Peter Wilt and Bob Bradley said on a number of occasions how unwilling they were to do business with New York long before this past offseason.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 06:55 PM
You can't have a one way fight.
you can't give the cow away and expect the last person to buy it back for you
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:44 PM
This "new revelation" from Ives that seems to be just his rehash of other articles on Hauptman conveniently overlooks the shenanigans involving Conde and Marmol.
Just as some of us seem to overlook the fact that there was an out clause IN his contract, which certainly couldn't have escaped - HELLO - the president of the club. You'd think.
Maybe we didn't play clean pool in getting JCO from Millionarios, who knows (and Ives sure as hell doesn't)
You would...if you didn't drink the Guppy Flavor-Aid.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 08:17 PM
Does anyone else just want to bitch-slap people who use phrases like "falvor/kool-aid/ade" or "DING DING DING!" or "LAST CALL!".......or is it just me?
I think, without wildly lashing out about his character or intent or intelligence or any of a number of vaguely irrational hyperbolic rants, I can say that we could do better than John Guppy.
Don't get me wrong...we could definitely do worse...but we could also do better.
And that's really about the full extent of my opinion on that.
I think, without wildly lashing out about his character or intent or intelligence or any of a number of vaguely irrational hyperbolic rants, I can say that we could do better than John Guppy.
Don't get me wrong...we could definitely do worse...but we could also do better.
And that's really about the full extent of my opinion on that.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 11:29 PM
I like how RBNY and JCO did no wrong in this episode according to Ives.
JCO was aware of his "out clause" but he didn't tell his new employer because he wanted his old employer to get paid off.
And RBNY did the same thing the Fire did by pulling him out of Colombia, but the Fire didn't compensate the Millonarios.
And now the Fire won't do business with RBNY (they won't deal Marmol or Conde).
Ives, you're a good writer, but give it a rest on this one. If a guy has a legitimate (and some things in contracts aren't necessarily legit) out clause, why wouldn't he just tell his suitor "I'll see you in 30 days"?
As for the no dealing (and just f'in say it: WE WANT CONDE AND MARMOL) with RBNY, why would anyone want to deal with your competitors? Why would you want to help your opponent? It makes no sense at all.
Lastly, why no mention of JCO's supposed main reason: the wife?
Give it a rest Ives. We've moved on. Unless ... Conde and Marmol have a "secret out clause" - I'm sure JCO reminded them to get one of those when they signed, right?
JCO was aware of his "out clause" but he didn't tell his new employer because he wanted his old employer to get paid off.
And RBNY did the same thing the Fire did by pulling him out of Colombia, but the Fire didn't compensate the Millonarios.
And now the Fire won't do business with RBNY (they won't deal Marmol or Conde).
Ives, you're a good writer, but give it a rest on this one. If a guy has a legitimate (and some things in contracts aren't necessarily legit) out clause, why wouldn't he just tell his suitor "I'll see you in 30 days"?
As for the no dealing (and just f'in say it: WE WANT CONDE AND MARMOL) with RBNY, why would anyone want to deal with your competitors? Why would you want to help your opponent? It makes no sense at all.
Lastly, why no mention of JCO's supposed main reason: the wife?
Give it a rest Ives. We've moved on. Unless ... Conde and Marmol have a "secret out clause" - I'm sure JCO reminded them to get one of those when they signed, right?
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 08:48 AM
I know this post only bumped this back up to the top, but honestly, let's just not carry on this conversation. any longer. It's not worth it, it's not worth it, and it's not worth it. A healthy rivalry is one thing--this is not. The more talk about this from both sides there is, the dumber and worse off we all look/act.
They have a coach, we have a coach. They have players, we have players. The rules of the league may not be the best right now, but we all play with what we are given. And at that, the rest should/will be settled on the pitch. I know everyone wants to get all embroiled in some logic battle or respond to flame baiting (from both our sides), but honestly, there's really nothing more to talk about here. Especially since most of the factual details will most likely never be public domain.
They have a coach, we have a coach. They have players, we have players. The rules of the league may not be the best right now, but we all play with what we are given. And at that, the rest should/will be settled on the pitch. I know everyone wants to get all embroiled in some logic battle or respond to flame baiting (from both our sides), but honestly, there's really nothing more to talk about here. Especially since most of the factual details will most likely never be public domain.
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 09:13 AM
From Ives:
Isn't the transfer deadline today? Is anybody really on the radar to be signed that quickly??
Marmol is also unattached so he could also be signed after Tuesday's transfer deadline.
So why the optimism about Marmol? according to sources in Chicago, the Fire is considering a transfer deadline acquisition that could leave the club without the salary cap room to afford Marmol. If that is the case, then the Fire would lose its discovery claim to Marmol, which would move the Red Bulls into position to sign him.
Isn't the transfer deadline today? Is anybody really on the radar to be signed that quickly??
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