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The owner of Orlando City definitely sounds as if he knows what he's doing. Sounds like a real pro outfit down there, judging by his interview on MLS Extratime Radio.

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Ominous rumblings in NYTimes goal blog from what must be Beiersdorfer re RB's commitment to soccer.

Let's hope it's just chatter and not the beginning of some belt tightening.
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Ominous rumblings in NYTimes goal blog from what must be Beiersdorfer re RB's commitment to soccer.

Let's hope it's just chatter and not the beginning of some belt tightening.


link?

Thought that Beiersdorfer wasn't part of RB anymore?

RIP Guillermo Romulo and Alexander Francis Orig.

 

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Im on a mobile, you can google it or go to nytimes, sports, soccer, goal blog, etc.

#2 of 5 things for MLS.

And, yeah, I refer to all of RBNY-Austria as Beiersdorfer, regardless of what anyone's actual name is.

Easier that way.
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link?

Thought that Beiersdorfer wasn't part of RB anymore?

http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/

Meanwhile, Back in New York On the other side of the United States, the Red Bulls remain an enigma poured inside a can of energy-drink elixir. There have been whispers that some of the corporate honchos back in Salzburg, Austria, are questioning the company’s commitment to its teams in Germany and the United States, and academies in Ghana and Brazil. After all, Red Bull is all about action and extreme sports, and there has been nothing extreme about the performance of its soccer teams.

On the other side of the Hudson River, M.L.S. Commissioner Don Garber (a native of Bayside, Queens) keeps talking up the league’s proverbial 20th team, a k a the Cosmos. The English predator Paul Kemsley is out of the picture (was he ever really in it?), supplanted by the Saudi outfit Sela Sports. It is not the only group pursuing a team and a stadium somewhere in the five boroughs (Knightsbridge in the Bronx, Greenpoint in Brooklyn, Aqueduct in Queens, West Side and/or Javits Center in Manhattan … perhaps with a brief stay at Citi Field in Flushing). This minuet shows Garber at his political best as he plays three sides against the middle, talking up expansion to places like Las Vegas, Atlanta and Orlando, Fla. The M.L.S. brain trust knows that a rivalry in and around N.Y.C. will focus some much-need attention on the game and the league in the country’s biggest media market.


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Im on a mobile, you can google it or go to nytimes, sports, soccer, goal blog, etc.

#2 of 5 things for MLS.

And, yeah, I refer to all of RBNY-Austria as Beiersdorfer, regardless of what anyone's actual name is.

Easier that way.


Hmmm.

RIP Guillermo Romulo and Alexander Francis Orig.

 

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Ominous rumblings in NYTimes goal blog from what must be Beiersdorfer re RB's commitment to soccer.

Let's hope it's just chatter and not the beginning of some belt tightening.

I have a hard time giving NY Times any MLS credibility when it (almost predictably) concludes the article with this gem: "The league again this season has tweaked its playoff format, adding a play-in game and expanding to a 10-team postseason."

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The owner of Orlando City definitely sounds as if he knows what he's doing. Sounds like a real pro outfit down there, judging by his interview on MLS Extratime Radio.


Oh yeah, he does. They definitely deserve to be #20 over anyone else right now. But there's no way that team with an attendance of around 6000 is making that much. I mean, they're listed as making 1 million euros less than San Jose. And Rochester's on that list too, and they've gone waaaaaay downhill from their Open Cup win. Nope. No way any of this is real.

EDIT: Proof this website is all bs, here are the consolidated financial statements of PAOK (note: its a PDF and its in Greek). The site lists their revenue at 10M Euros. PAOK had that on ticket sales alone, with a total revenue of 23M Euros last year.

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The revenue streams of an MLS club can be broken down into seven categories (taken from this):

  • Tickets
  • Premium Seating
  • Concessions and Merchandise
  • Exhibitions and Events
  • Advertising and Sponsorships
  • Stadium Naming Rights
  • SUM Distribution

I would guess that RBNY makes more than the league average in terms of tickets, premium seating, and sponsorships; the average in merchandise (since that money is distributed across the league equally), SUM money, and exhibitions and events (though it depends on how much the club was paid for that Emirates Cup appearance, and how much the club saw from the All-Star Game...).

Sponsorship and stadium naming rights are sort of a strange situation, due to the shirt and stadium sponsors being the team owners. How much would those be worth in the open market? It's hard to pin down what fair market value on the naming rights at the Arena would be, but it would probably also be higher than the league average.

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FC Zenit Saint Petersburg makes a lot of money in a crappy looking stadium. (20th)

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I have a hard time giving NY Times any MLS credibility when it (almost predictably) concludes the article with this gem: "The league again this season has tweaked its playoff format, adding a play-in game and expanding to a 10-team postseason."

Did they regain credibility when they confused Knightsbridge, London with Kingsbridge, Bronx?

Knightsbridge in the Bronx


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Did they regain credibility when they confused Knightsbridge, London with Kingsbridge, Bronx?


Ha. I go past that station every day.

RIP Guillermo Romulo and Alexander Francis Orig.

 

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How could Austria be thrilled with any of their soccer teams? They aren't setting the world on fire. With that said, Red Bull's invested a lot of money and I think it will take another 2-3 years of poor results (or when Henry's contract runs out), before they would seriously consider selling the team.

When they announce the building of an academy / training facility is the day we can be sure they will want a long term ownership. Until then, who knows.
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How could Austria be thrilled with any of their soccer teams? They aren't setting the world on fire. With that said, Red Bull's invested a lot of money and I think it will take another 2-3 years of poor results (or when Henry's contract runs out), before they would seriously consider selling the team.

When they announce the building of an academy / training facility is the day we can be sure they will want a long term ownership. Until then, who knows.



FWIW they were working on building a facility out in Morris County for a while, and had a deal struck with the township until the township tried to squeeze another million for "traffic redesigning" at the last minute--thus killing the deal.

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if they do cut teams/organizations, I think RB Brazil and Ghana are first. I think we, Salzburg, and Leipzig stick around.

RIP Guillermo Romulo and Alexander Francis Orig.

 

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