I found a list of the order of the 2009 Superdraft on January 15th in Saint Louis
usasoccer.blogspot.com-mls-superdraft-preview.html

Red Bull only has 4 picks (in 14th, 29th, 44th, 59th)

their first round pick is 14th overall...which is more like a 2nd rounder (and is only 2 picks away from their first pick last year in the 2nd round (the 16th overall))

just remember where jeff parke was picked... pick 60

Assuming we go with a defender with our first pick, could one of these players be our guy:

Calum Angus RB- St. Louis
Chris Clements CB- Tulsa
David Tyrie CB- Central Conn. St.
John Pardini CB- Fordham
Kevon Neaves CB- USF
Liam Parrington CB- Hartwick
Rhett Bernstein CB- Brown
Omar Gonzalez CB- Maryland

If Gonzalez does come out early as Genration adidas, then he would definitely be tops on this list. That is, in fact, if he would actually still be available at our pick.

Calum Angus is a RB out of England. We know we desperately need another RB.

John Pardini is a 6'5" CB.

Kevon Neaves is a very good defender from T&T and is really helping USF in their NCAA run right now.

Connor Tobin- CB- U. of Vermont




I may be biased, but I think he sounds like an excellent sleeper pick.

I would be shocked if Gonzalez was available considering he would be a GA.

Trade up in order to take O'Brien White - F (UCONN)

We have more picks coming in the Supplemental Draft:

We lose:
The conditional pick for the Mathis trade will probably fall into this category since Mathis played quite a bit this season in Colorado, therefor we will lose one of our picks here.

We gain:
We have TFC's 3rd and 4th round Supplemental picks (Freeman trade)
We also have RSL's 4th round Supplemental pick (Rimando trade)

That gives us 4 initial picks -1 +3 for a total of 6 picks here as well.

We also have a 2010 high draft pick coming thanks to Dema Kovalenko's success.

I want David Tyrie, guy made a hell of a catch in the Super Bowl.

I was thinking about the GIANTS also.

He tore his ACL, so I wouldn't expect much help (if any) from him next year. For a team who has a legit chance to compete right away, I'd rather go in a different direction.

And I say that as a UConn grad.

all our draft picks should go for defenders.... i want a tall physical one like bakery soumire.... even trade up for one....

Sounds like Eric Brunner

Anyone know how he did a Miami FC? Looks like he started 13 games.

Wonder if we still hold his rights?

we drafted Brunner last year and he fit that mold, any chance he would be brought back now with a year of USL experience under his belt?

i said big guys not tall skinny like brunner.... i want bakery soumire like or conde like... or john terry like or rio ferdinand like.... i want BIG AND STRONG AND TALL AND POWERFULL....

Relax......we already have Boyens!

LOL

boyens is good he would be one of the key defenders that need to stay with jimenez for a long time....

I don't think Boyens will be playing in the Mexican 2nd division next fall with Jimenez.

nope them two will be in our starting line up....

You're probably right. And if so, we will be a below average MLS team again this year.

Jiminez is lead footed and will get spun like a top eventually. I am a RB fan and will cheer my heart out for him though.

Links to the player profiles of the top Defense prospects listed in the link above...just thought I'd make it easier for others to scout here
Calum Angus D - St. Louis
http://slubillikens.cstv.com/sports/m-socc...us_calum00.html
Chris Clements D - Tulsa
http://tulsahurricane.cstv.com/sports/m-so...ts_chris00.html
David Tyrie - D - Central Connecticut
https://admin.xosn.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPS...;ATCLID=1072321
John Pardini D - Fordham
http://fordhamsports.cstv.com/sports/m-soc...ini_john00.html
Kevon Neaves - D/M - South Florida
http://www.gousfbulls.com/ViewArticle.dbml...p;Q_SEASON=2006
Liam Parrington D - Hartwick
http://www.mac-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml...;ATCLID=1566700
Matt Besler D - Notre Dame
http://und.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/besler_matt00.html
Rhett Bernstein D - Brown
http://brownbears.cstv.com/sports/m-soccer...in_rhett00.html
Yohance Marshall D - South Florida
https://admin.xosn.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_...p;ATCLID=216876

what has roth done?

superdraft doesnt mean shit.....
MLS teams are gonna compete based on DP's all the really good young talent will have a breakout year in the MLS and then be shipped off to England or Spain

what happened to Jozy Altidore?

you have to draft Calum Angus for the irony factor/song potential.

Don't hate on David Roth.

and we're right back to the 'what has roth done' question

omar gonzalez is that strong physical center back ... but if hes GA no way does he clear the first round

-We have a first round pick. #14 is first round. It's impossible to gauge whether or not he'll be available until there is some idea of who will be available in the GA class and how the seniors get rated in the combine. I wouldn't be surprised if we could pick up a quality defender at #14, even if not a centerback.

-We do still have Brunner's rights.

-We can also trade Conway if we get a good offer (SJ didn't pick up Cannon's option...).

-Toronto will likely go for O'brian White because he's Canadian and won't count as an international for them.

-Perhaps Osorio is thinking of trading the 2nd DP slot to Chicago for Conde and another player?

Who has ever won anything with DP's?

I'd be happy to get a young stud for a couple years, especially on defense, then sell him off.

I'm not arguing your point at all.

Guille was an un-DP, DP. He was making close to $1 million for the Crew and they won the MLS Cup. They didn't have to throw the DP tag on him because they used allocation money to go over the normal limit. Now that the allocation money is no longer there, they threw the DP tag in him yesterday.

If Ike Opara comes out GA, he will be the top center back in the draft and very possibly the first pick in the draft. Everyone rates him very high. He's from Wake Forest... I believe a sophomore.

Expected to play a significant role on the 2009 U-20 WC team.

That reminds me me I would try to move up to get that maybe best two players in the enitre draft by morgaging future picks and if that failed I would get rid of all the picks for allocation money and pull a columbus crew and get a non DP, DP to play CB

or trade all the draft picks and even some of next years, to get allocation money to sign Angel to one more year, Then usea the two DPs is to get Veron And D'Alessandro. What! Veron, Angel and D'Alessandro Metro would be stacked. All you got to do is dupe Angel into the nonDP DP and swindle MLS into 3 DP per team in the next CBA.

But a year younger and 3 inches shorter than Omar Gonzalez, and if Opara is a starting centerback for the U-20s (likely), he's also going to miss a significant amount of time next year, which could be bad having a 24 man roster and 45 games. If it came down to Gonzalez vs. Opara for next year (both GAs), I would likely prefer Gonzalez over Opara based on needing someone who won't automatically miss games.

I kind of believe Felix Garcia may go 1st overall because he's 18, highly-rated by Rongen and has been an impact player for the U-20s.

How'd Rongen rate this kid?

A kid i played with is from seton hall im so dumbfounded why Osorio hasnt called this kid to camp

but he is a future draft pick.... left footed player that can shoot the ball from any where.... lets say DVB with speed and played like a A-MID....

and hes south american.... if we pass him in the future ill be pissed this will be like missing out on sasha and where did he play.... at the SHU BABY!!!!....

Seton Hall
Brayan Martinez - Sophomore
# 21
Midfielder - MF
Height: 5-9 Weight: 150
Hometown:West Orange, N.J./West Orange

i think i know him, he played well with seton last year, but i hear he has an attitude problem and lacks disipline.

Also, we didnt pass on Sasha we were poised to take him at 5,but traded with Chivas for 1 to take Wynne.

well he was always spoiled growing up.... as a soccer player.... just from my way of seeing things as a team mate as his.... but hes a great team mate tho.... on road trips hes great.... also a team prankster.... he does get mad some times when the ball dosnt go through him sometimes.... but aws a A-mid thats what you want tho.... but if he's there in the draft in the future i would take him right away.... or take him in for pre-season camp....

Why does this matter?

Seems to me that this makes him about as qualified to play for the team as not having a pumpkin for a head.

If Osorio is only interested in South Americans, then he needs to be dumped as soon as possible.

So....we could trade up to get a (possible starter), like in the days if MoJo with Marvel Wynne or Kansas last year with "Chance Myers".

Or grab whats available, add some free agents, bring back Eric Brunner and have them compete with our existing bunch in pre-season.

How many "tall" centerbacks do we need? Anything over 5'9" works. JCO ruled out Stammler and Mendes this year at CB. Speed at CB would be useful.

Or is JCO going to try the 3 back (as in 3/5/2) formation again?

Dude, you have to be joking. That kid was not doing anything at Mainz and not improving when Rongen passed on him. He then started playing better and went on to impress his coach before that coach took him to Dortmund. Rongen had every reason to take this kid, Subotic lost his place on his own. Perhaps Subotic was just not in the right place mentally when Rongen didn't take him and getting passed over gave him a bit of a kick in the ass.

It's always easier to judge in hindsight than to make all the right judgments at the right times.

he didn't stay forever...



he seriously still on that conde trip? what next marmol? chi-town ain't giving them up. JCO's gotta move on.

if this UCONN kid who tore his ACL is the real deal maybe we can draft him late and stash him away on our bench

Ives is reporting the following list so far targeted for GA contracts:

-Ike Opara, defender, Wake Forest
-Omar Gonzalez, defender, Maryland
-Steve Zakuani, forward, Akron
-Peri Marosevic, forward, Michigan
-Michael Stephens, midfielder, UCLA
-Kevin Alston, defender, Indiana
-Jeremy Hall, midfielder/forward, Maryland
-Baggio Husidic, midfielder, Illinois-Chicago
-Stefan Frei, goalkeeper, California

From this initial list, I would think we should be interested in Ike Opara, Omar Gonzalez, Kevin Alston and Jeremy Hall. Don't know much about the others. Opara and Gonzalez will likely go high in the draft, so if we want either one we'll have to trade up to get them. Perhaps Alston may slip a little because of the seniors and other GAs that could be in the draft. I hear he's a good outside back, although I don't know if he's a right back or a left back -- but we could use either one!

Jeremy Hall is apparently fast and a left-sided player. That could be the right kind of guy to develop at left wing into VDB's spot. He's the top scorer for Maryland this year with 14 goals and 6 assists (for 34 points), so he's known quantity. Also a former Bradenton kid. Does anyone know if he has pace like Dane Richards? Five goals and 4 assists in '07 for 14 points; 7 goals and 3 assists in '06 for 17 points. May be worthwhile to trade up for this guy to get a GA left wing (back-up if VDB comes back).

Maybe we can send Conway to LA for the #3 pick. Or Conway to DC for the #6 or #7 pick.

I believe Zakuani led the nation in scoring (or close to it)
Marosevic has been part of the U-20 pool
I'm familar with Stephens and Frei, I think i have seen them play once each and I believe Frei is Swiss so he might have options in Europe as well

Draft Marosevic!

I agree with LA, but not DC.

NEVER DC

When you look at our roster, Conway (& Dane) are the most obvious trade bait. Could be why we have so many keepers.

But, a high draft pick could be on a GA contract. How will that affect our own youth team prospects? Not to mention if Matt Kassel entered the draft.

Conway to DC? Good keeper, would be happy to see him stay, but never a "fans favorite". Would want to rob dc blind in return (then Conway do a "Wells @houston" effort).

If Matt Kassel enters the draft, he is ours because we own his amateur rights. That is, unless we decide to let go of those rights.

Just as MF says, Kassel doesn't enter the draft because we would take him as our home grown player and give him a GA contract. That's separate from the GA class that MLS will get for SuperDraft '09. A high draft pick would likely be a GA, which would be good for us because it would stretch the salary cap.

I think Jeremy Hall would be a good pick for us for a backup left wing (assuming VDB re-signs) and then becomes our future left wing. If we could get some speed, 1v1 skill and additional scoring ability from the left wing, that would be good for us. Felix Garcia would also be very good in this exact role, and is also potentially a GA.

Either of the GA centerbacks: Ike Opara or Omar Gonzalez, would be good for us, but they are likely to go very high in the draft.

Some outside backs like Kevin Alston or Calum Angus would also be good for us.

Also, what's wrong with trading Conway to DC? As long as we get good value for him, who cares what team it is. This is not a question of rivalry. Trading Dane Richards would be crazy, we have no one ready to play right wing as he does and he's been steadily improving every year. Dane is a core player for us. We should not trade core players. Dane is also relatively inexpensive.

Agreed about Dane. There's going to be player changes this off season and we don't need to add right mid to the list. Only mentioned Dane as a player other teams would value. Sadly, our roster doesn't have many.

The Generation Adidas contracts, let's see if I've got this right. A team can have a max of four GA players on the squad. They obtain these GA players either by drafting or trading. Or, they can offer 1 GA contract every 3 years to one of the redbull youth team. Which means, if Matt Kassel gets offered a GA contract as a college player (say GA class of 2010), redbull would have first refusal as they own his rights. If redbull sign him (GA class of 2010), does this GA contract count as the "1 every 3 years youth team" GA contract, or is that in addition?